# Dark Pits - results of proof read

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [March 15, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950 "2019-03-15T05:45:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/1 "2019-03-15T05:45:21Z")

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**Platform, device version and operating system:**  
Steam, Windows 7 x64

**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:**

**Here’s the full results of my proof read of Dark Pits:**  
(Italics used to show changes. All just my opinion.)

- Cursed Touch trait: “…when dealing damage_d_.” – extra ‘d’ needs removing.
- Into the Arena intro: “While traveling through the dim, murky Underworld…” – need to add the comma.
- Into the Arena intro: “Fat rats are weak - beneath Tau.” – dash should be longer (an em-dash). Check other places you use a dash in-game.
- Out of the Arena intro: “Tau smells bad things - Stinky Rats.” – dash should be em-dash; might read better as “Tau _smell_ bad things”
- Out of the Arena first quest: “Battle out of the arena.” doesn’t really mean anything. “Fight your way out of the arena.” might be better.
- Out of the Arena epilogue: “Snakey Ladies _have_ taught Rattigar” – ‘have’ needs to be removed; might sound even better as “teach” instead of “taught”.
- Away from Danger intro: “with lightning.” “I see _them_ too.” – except, maybe the Hero is mimicking Tau, here.
- Away from Danger epilogue: “KILL me?!” might be better than “Kill ME?”
- Away from Danger epilogue: “…We approached the exit _from_ the Dark Pits.” – a bit pedantic of me.
- Final Guardian intro: “Tau has _a_ found a worthy Rattigar.” – first ‘a’ needs to be removed.
- Final Guardian epilogue: “Maybe Tau find even HUGER rats _to_ challenge!”
- Capitalisation of quest names is not consistent with other parts of the game (or accepted usage). Should be: “Into _the_ Arena”, “Out _of the_ Arena”, “Away _from_ Danger”.

That took me about 15 mins.

I’d be happy to proof read **all** quests for suitable, in-game recompense, using a format or system that works for you (the messageboard’s markup just isn’t up to the task).

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/2 "2019-03-15T06:29:45Z")

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Love it! I’ll need to cross-reference/check a couple to help me remember, but I think I agree with most, both grammatical and stylistic 🙂.

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**Author:** ![Koromac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koromac/32/59857_2.png) [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/3 "2019-03-15T08:38:15Z")

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So, I was not the only one who noticed this? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/4 "2019-03-16T15:08:45Z")

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Anyone have money to hire me as a proof reader?  
(Sadly, I’m not actually kidding.)

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**Author:** ![Koromac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koromac/32/59857_2.png) [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/5 "2019-03-17T11:05:33Z")

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Ask the developers. 😉

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**Author:** ![Fikda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Fikda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fikda)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/6 "2019-03-17T11:12:33Z")

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“Tau has a found a worthy Rattigar”…Maybe Tau is Mario’s brother??

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**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/7 "2019-03-21T04:37:36Z")

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Hey, thanks Starlite.

Any text you see with an extra letter on the end was a victim of our localisation tool throwing a fit and deciding to extend every sentence by 1 character. Thank you localisation tool. It will be fixed soon-ish.

I’m not sure if the dashes will be changed but I’ll suggest it.

Tau is meant to be grammatically incorrect 😃

As for the capitalisation consistency issues, this is something we’re working on as a long term project 🙂

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**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 6:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/8 "2019-03-21T06:32:12Z")

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I did take into account that Tau was meant to be speaking strangely, so I still reckon the changes I’ve suggested are a good idea.

On a related note, a few days ago I noticed the word “Undeads” on screen. Unfortunately, I didn’t record it, though I think it was while selecting my Invasion team. “Undead” is a collective noun and its own plural, so should never appear with an ‘s’ on the end. Probably related to your localisation tool issue. In your position, I would search the text of the game for “Undeads”, though I guess that might not work. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/9 "2019-03-21T12:44:52Z")

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Em dash is one of those things that’s a victim of keyboards, sort of like “real quotes”. On the mac you can easily use ALT+{hyphen} to get em dash – but on Windows systems any punctuation not on the keyboard tends to require memorizing numbers. So if people use them it tends to be because a program like Word automatically converts hyphens for them.

That said, when programming, it’s also a crapshoot if a shaky text subsystem even handles em dash. Odds are the GoW systems display a blank space if they see an em dash. Unicode might be two decades old, but a remarkably depressing amount of software still believes ASCII and ANSI code pages are The Way.

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**Author:** ![cky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cky/32/54091_2.png) [@cky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cky)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/10 "2019-03-22T05:08:39Z")

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That’s because Windows APIs mostly have not embraced UTF-8, the One True Encoding. Whereas, UTF-8 is the norm in the Unix world and it Just Works.

I write all my software to always expect UTF-8 and if you send text in other encodings you will die. The end.

P.S. I hate UTF-16. Surrogate pairs are a gross hack. Also I blame UTF-16 for constraining the maximum code point to U+10FFFF.

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**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/11 "2019-03-22T15:46:25Z")

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Nah, I’m going to counter that Windows _devs_ haven’t embraced anything resembling Unicode.

Part of the divide between the NT and 9x kernels was that NT used UTF-16 as the default and MS started advocating for its use as early as Win2k. A big chunk of the Petzold book was devoted to “how to not ever have to worry about it” via some macros. When .NET released in the early 2000s, `Encoding.Default` is likewise UTF-16, as is `Encoding.Unicode`. Somewhere around Win8 I’m pretty sure the mandate was that new API had to be on the new platforms, with COM/C being the backwards compatibility layer. That’s evident in how every native UWP element and most WPF elements natively support the full range of emoji/Unicode, but the more classical WinForms elements only do so if you use specific fonts.

Regardless, I’m pretty sure if I ask a random question involving `char` \<-\> `byte` conversion of any random .NET dev there’s a huge probability they’d tell me to use `Encoding.ASCII`. Probably 75% of examples that get cargo-culted around do it. :mad:

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**Author:** ![cky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cky/32/54091_2.png) [@cky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cky)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/12 "2019-03-22T16:56:11Z")

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> [@Slypenslyde](#):
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> Part of the divide between the NT and 9x kernels was that NT used UTF-16 as the default and MS started advocating for its use as early as Win2k.

Therein lies the problem. UTF-16 sucks. If they had committed to UTF-8 from the outset, there’d have been no problems! :trollface: (I am aware that UTF-8 came out after Windows NT. But still.)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dark-pits-results-of-proof-read/52950/13 "2019-03-23T01:38:05Z")

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Off-topic! 😝

I maintain that @Starlite’s suggestions for Tau were _also_ grammatically incorrect, as was intended for him, and were more stylistic suggestions (than grammatical) - many of which I liked/agreed with, and should be considered 🙂.
