# Daily Troop Discussion! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [August 19, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106 "2017-08-19T16:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/122 "2017-08-24T12:11:23Z")
Stonehammer: My thoughts is the should rework him to spawn gems like Gar’Nok, so he does a flat 15 or something but then two extra for each dwarf ally. Fortitude trait would be nice, along with lower cost and a slayer trait. He also appears to suffer from overcosted team wide status effect applications. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/123 "2017-08-24T12:15:26Z")
> [@Drathas](#): > > My thoughts is the should rework him to spawn gems like Gar’Nok, so he does a flat 15 or something but then two extra for each dwarf ally. Would an extra turn to his currently skill be too much? ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/124 "2017-08-24T12:18:58Z")
With getting more gems with more dwarves may help with the mana blockage. Extra turn is too powerful I think, plus he’s not a sly Goblin or an agile Fey, so I think it doesn’t fit in that sense too. I’ve pvp’d a lot with him and my dwarf team this week, having Highforge certainly helps and Apoc still fills in two green matches anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/125 "2017-08-24T12:19:08Z")
> [@Drathas](#): > > Fortitude trait would be nice, along with lower cost and a slayer trait. What race should Dwarves slay for x 2 extra skull damage? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/126 "2017-08-24T12:20:15Z")
Dragons 10char ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/127 "2017-08-24T12:22:04Z")
Orcs or Giants or Daemons. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/128 "2017-08-24T12:25:30Z")
I have huge problems seeing those small muppets slay any of the enormous races, but maybe it fit in Krystara, we have Keghammer after all 😛 My vote would probably be Giant Slayer and fortitude trait on Stonehammer, take away the two immune trait he has and replace them. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/129 "2017-08-24T12:27:01Z")
Fastest way to kill a Giant is to kneecap them. ‘take an arrow to the knee’ 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/130 "2017-08-24T12:27:28Z")
haha. 😃 I like the sound of it, I will go ahead and kneecap @Vangor ! ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/131 "2017-08-24T12:28:20Z")
btw how often are we even up aganist giants… giant slayer seem a little meh atm… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/132 "2017-08-24T12:29:37Z")
When people start using more trolls out in defence, it could more widely useful. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/133 "2017-08-24T12:30:18Z")
I always forget that trolls are giants… 😂 I keep thinking trolls are an own race… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/134 "2017-08-24T12:33:00Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > I will go ahead and kneecap @Vangor ! Heh good luck with that brudda lol ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/135 "2017-08-24T12:49:20Z")
## TEZCA ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/f/3fc6dfcb09bee1beeae2dcb808c5d3d923e59762.jpg) [http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6335](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6335) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/136 "2017-08-24T12:51:08Z")
I actually like tezca as is. She is an excellent support troop with a humility/bat build ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/137 "2017-08-24T12:54:26Z")
Is she really an excellent support troop? I honestly don’t think so. Gives only 17 life and attack to one ally for 12 mana cost, cleanse them, also gives only 3 magic to every red troop. Epic as well and all her 3 traits is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/138 "2017-08-24T12:57:06Z")
She gives 3 magic to red troops which makes a bat stronger while you are waiting to hit magic with humility cast ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/139 "2017-08-24T12:57:13Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > humility/bat build Then every troop must be excellent because humility boost their magic. But how often does Humility boost magic on troops? My personal experience is that the % is no near 25% hitting on magic with Humilities spell. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/140 "2017-08-24T12:59:06Z")
Its a bit of a slow team but very effective Holy banner Bat Humility Merxy Tezca ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/141 "2017-08-24T13:00:39Z")
Tezca is underwhelming for me, and needs serious some love. But each to their own. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=8)