# Daily Troop Discussion! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [August 19, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106 "2017-08-19T16:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/531 "2017-09-29T15:37:58Z")
I think BD has all but disappeared from defense teams, but still has a place on offense. Like all generators, you need to know when a cast is more likely to work out in your favor, which the AI is bad at. Previously, the board layout didn’t matter at all. Likewise, you rarely see Sheggra or KoS on defense, but both can be used to good effect on offense. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/532 "2017-09-29T15:38:37Z")
😡😡😡😡 pfft… ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/533 "2017-09-29T15:39:58Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > I think BD has all but disappeared from defense teams, but still has a place on offense. Like all generators, you need to know when a cast is more likely to work out in your favor, which the AI is bad at. Previously, the board layout didn’t matter at all. > > Likewise, you rarely see Sheggra or KoS on defense, but both can be used to good effect on offense. Yes, exactly. I still use BD and KoS on offense from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/534 "2017-09-29T15:40:19Z")
someone wanna fight me today, come get me! 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/535 "2017-09-29T15:41:05Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/4/451c8f95ea329f1454675f1b96abde8e7cc99005.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/536 "2017-09-29T15:42:41Z")
I have to be honest, I wanted a rework on Bone Dragon so badly, but I doubt we ever will see one now. ---
**Author:** ![moons](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/moons/32/29862_2.png) [@moons](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/moons)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/537 "2017-09-30T02:46:42Z")
If Bones went back to pre-nerf (destroy armor and create as many skulls) it would be mayhem for the end game players with their 50+ armors. It’d make Wisps look like underfed kids. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/538 "2017-09-30T13:57:33Z")
## TASSARION ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/9/a982d25d4005105e4cdf5661656c07f7c3139026.jpg) [http://gowdb.com/troops/6190](http://gowdb.com/troops/6190) ---
**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/539 "2017-09-30T14:43:40Z")
I never found one-time spells to be useful. It’s one of my least favourite mechanics in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/540 "2017-09-30T14:44:08Z")
Maw has one-time spell and pretty useful? ---
**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/541 "2017-09-30T14:47:55Z")
Yeah, barely the only one. But still don’t like the concept. It’s a personal opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/542 "2017-09-30T14:58:48Z")
I thought about a rework to the one-time only spells. Instead of one-time only, how about doubling the mana requirement for each consecutive use of the spell (2x,4x,8x). ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/543 "2017-09-30T15:01:46Z")
So what is increased by the Arcane trait? Is the magic bonus increased? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/544 "2017-09-30T15:03:45Z")
On GoWDB, the equation inside square brackets is influenced by the Magic trait. So in Tassarion’s case, it increases the number of gems he spawns. ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/545 "2017-09-30T15:42:41Z")
Oh. Then that trait is useless. Maybe change it for a 100% respawn like Drake Rider. Like an Imp maybe ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/546 "2017-09-30T16:47:48Z")
Too many troops spawn ancient horror or other same troops. Maybe spawn an imp instead for a change. Then maybe they’ll rework imps! I can’t remember ever using this dude. ---
**Author:** ![mraider94](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mraider94/32/21939_2.png) [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/547 "2017-09-30T19:34:30Z")
What if after casting his spell he becomes “Awakened” and gets a new spell. We need an apprentice mage troop from silverglade for him to summon on death. ---
**Author:** ![ColonielZoland88](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/colonielzoland88/32/19387_2.png) [@ColonielZoland88](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ColonielZoland88)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/548 "2017-09-30T19:37:09Z")
One of the worst epics in the game, he badly needs a rework. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/549 "2017-09-30T21:27:47Z")
A huge problem with the one-shot spells is that they are way overcosted by virtue of being one shots, and not because of the relative strength of the spell. Tassarion’s would be broken if allowed to cast multiple times, though, because of the uncapped magic scaling, free color targeting + arcane would allow him to infiniloop to however much magic you need for a team wipe every time. He’s basically a wasted slot (for anything other than testing uncapped gem spawn mechanics) unless he _at least_ increases the effectiveness of other troops by a third. While functionally, you _can_ achieve this with 3 magic in some cases (boosting a spell to 2 shot vs 3 shot, or 3 shot vs 4 shot), it becomes less and less likely and on fewer troops the more you progress into the game. At this point, I’d give him a very simple buff - instead of increasing the magic of all allies by 3, have it be 3 boosted by their current magic (3:1 boost ratio). That would make him one of the better guaranteed magic buffers in the game, while still having the the strong drawback of the one-shot and a wasted slot afterward. Enough to at least justify him taking a spot in the team in some instances. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/550 "2017-09-30T23:26:28Z")
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