# Daily Troop Discussion! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [August 19, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106 "2017-08-19T16:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/309 "2017-09-05T20:36:23Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Backstab (12 Purple/Brown) > > Deal [Magic + 8] damage to the last enemy, and drain their mana. Deal triple damage if they are a Daemon. Gain an extra turn if the enemy dies. He seems still too situational for me. I would like to use him on a brown or purple GW day, therefor I would like him to drain the enemy troop that has most mana and something else. We still need a purple/brown drainer that is viable tho. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/310 "2017-09-05T20:44:13Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Backstab (10 Purple/Brown) > > Deal [Magic + 5] damage to the enemy with most mana, and drain their Mana. > > After a little back and forth I am very happy with this suggestion. mana cost in my suggestion should probably be 11. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/311 "2017-09-05T20:48:01Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > We still need a purple/brown drainer too. Situationally, Watcher. Who maybe can be a topic for another day. Overall, I have to weigh the annoyance factor of adding more AI capable mana drainers into the game. “Highest mana” would mean you could influence them away from your generator, which is good, and his damage is still rather pitiful, so I don’t think there would be too much danger there at endgame when Spirit Fox is far more annoying anyways. I still think he should have a Daemon damage conditional. So maybe change to target highest mana like you suggested, keep the full mana drain, and deal double damage to daemons (doesn’t need triple if it is also a drain). This would make him a fairly good Famine counter as well. Regarding “highest mana”, assuming they are tied, would it also go for the first troop with that much mana, last troop with that much mana, or a random one? First troop having that mana amount is the most intuitive and probably the most useful overall, but last one makes more sense thematically with his spell name. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/312 "2017-09-05T20:49:27Z")
All good points. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/313 "2017-09-06T11:56:17Z")
Is there any other suggestions for a buff on Ferit, before we move on? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/314 "2017-09-06T11:56:57Z")
I got nothin brudda ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/315 "2017-09-06T12:29:28Z")
Liked the suggestions so far. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/316 "2017-09-06T12:35:37Z")
## GHIRALEE ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/7/47f1a394d9945552b13fac74304b36eb2c0c76e7.jpg) [http://gowdb.com/troops/6171](http://gowdb.com/troops/6171) ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/317 "2017-09-06T12:37:37Z")
Hmmm, yeah um. Don’t even think I be actually used this troop to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/318 "2017-09-06T12:37:39Z")
I would trade mech bond for armored and add stun to mechs ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/319 "2017-09-06T12:38:08Z")
I would also had make her deal triple damage to Mechs. ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/320 "2017-09-06T12:46:49Z")
She needs a little humpf, her effect is too slow and precise. Maybe , as part of the spell, enchant herself? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/321 "2017-09-06T12:48:47Z")
I like the way this is going: - trade mech bond trait for armored. - deal tripple damage instead of double to Mechs. - Enchant herself when spell is casted. All these 3 suggestions could have been added together. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/322 "2017-09-06T12:52:21Z")
I would actually like to see instead of triple damage, rework spell to something like: Steal (Magic + 6) Armour, double if the target is a mech. 40% chance to destroy if the target is a mech. Fits the ‘reverse engineering’ vibe for me better. Edit: the spell could even give a small boost of Armour to allied mechs to show her sharing the knowledge gained from breaking down the other robots. 😜 Helps boost Tesla teams and they’d be friends in Adana wouldn’t they? 😁🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/323 "2017-09-06T12:52:48Z")
Its still a good suggestion, brudda. ---
**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/324 "2017-09-06T12:58:55Z")
Stealing armor is what tankbot does. Triple damage to mecha instead of double is good. As a mech counter, mech Bond makes little sense. Lower her mana cost to 11 a give her Fast. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/325 "2017-09-06T12:59:43Z")
Maybe he’s Eika’s next victim… 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/326 "2017-09-07T12:55:17Z")
## TWISTED HERO ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/f/4fbe9cb94af4bd1a5bce0ee37e9c5c63d8de4f47.jpg) [http://gowdb.com/troops/6181](http://gowdb.com/troops/6181) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/327 "2017-09-07T12:58:38Z")
I propose a complete re-work! Lets make him stealthy and his spell should explode all green gems AND boost a random stat on a random ally by (magic+5) double if that ally is a goblin gain an extra turn. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/328 "2017-09-07T13:00:48Z")
I was close to add Fuzzbang here today, but it is already storms around it in the other thread. Lets hope for another ninja fix on her tho, for the better. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=15) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=17)