# Daily Troop Discussion! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [August 19, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106 "2017-08-19T16:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/268 "2017-09-01T14:44:56Z")
5 life? Serious? Remember we can have 4x. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/269 "2017-09-01T14:47:05Z")
I am serious yes. Or maybe his 3rd trait could be steal 5 life from a random troop a turn. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/270 "2017-09-01T14:47:58Z")
## DARK SONG ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/4/144c7cf24af5ba21417eca65dc91a248f721013f.jpg) [http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6134](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6134) ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/271 "2017-09-01T14:52:31Z")
Happy to have a troop die every 3 turns just causeā€¦ 5 is a just silly idea. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/272 "2017-09-01T14:53:00Z")
I am a sheep, you remember. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/273 "2017-09-01T14:53:35Z")
One that likes lots of blood it seemsā€¦ šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/274 "2017-09-01T14:55:05Z")
Hmm Dark Song, think she turned a bit worse after the Orc update. To be honest I canā€™t even remember her spell now! šŸ˜³ Ok, I think the 6 mana can be changed to ā€˜drain their mana and gain 6 back if orc or daemonā€™. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/275 "2017-09-01T14:57:25Z")
Her old spell was average to poorā€¦ her new spell is utter rubbishā€¦ she needs a reworked rework. To be at all useful she needs to hit hard on her colour or type hose target. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/276 "2017-09-01T23:16:50Z")
Deal 30 damage to to the two first enemies and give 5 attack to orc allies. Explode 3 gems. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/277 "2017-09-02T03:55:37Z")
I just got my first Artema today. Seems decent and doesnā€™t warrant any changes, Iā€™m running her in an all Centaur team and only got first trait too. šŸ˜œ Using Oracle hero, with Yasmines Chalice (sometime Bullroarer), Sun Disk or Pans Lute as the opponent dictates. The Chalice is nice for buffing Bulā€™Tauros šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/278 "2017-09-02T12:23:54Z")
How I really wanted a deathā€¦ Then the constant nerfsā€¦ Then I got two with another abynissia in 50 gem chests. I did his first trait for a little bit of fun while I was soul farming and then never used him ever again. And then he got another nerf. The fact that a mythic is considerably worse than many legendary troops is just stupid. What would I do with him? Give him true damage and necro mark. An exclusive death only deathmark that works like the no grace period old one. Then heā€™ll be back to being a mythic and deserving to be actually called death. People would use him. Apart from against dwarves etc, but heā€™d be niche enough to still be powerful in most situations. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/279 "2017-09-02T12:35:17Z")
> [@Nephilim](#): > > Give him true damage and necro mark. An exclusive death only deathmark that works like the no grace period old one. Then heā€™ll be back to being a mythic and deserving to be actually called death. I like this idea a lot. šŸ‘šŸæ ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/280 "2017-09-02T13:11:54Z")
They just gave her a little love. ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/281 "2017-09-02T13:45:03Z")
And his 3rd trait to steal three life from the first and last troop. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/282 "2017-09-02T14:54:57Z")
## SWAMPLASH ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/6/26f958b0b725b51d270552a69936e72a76a29fa4.png) [http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6145](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6145) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/283 "2017-09-02T14:56:35Z")
Triple Vines (12 Green/Brown) Deal [Magic + 6] damage to an enemy troop. Deal **triple** damage if the enemy is entangled. Entangle the enemy. For me it still looks a little meh with triple damage, at least a little better than double, but lets see what ppl says. ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/284 "2017-09-02T15:04:22Z")
Yeah with power creep Swamplash and other like-themed troops that do double dmg on status effect have been left in the dust. A triple dmg would help out Swampy (and others like Talā€™Rae and Wandering Monk). Maybe even add a 25% chance to insta-kill the status-inflicted troop but that might be adding too much RNG. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/285 "2017-09-02T15:08:23Z")
Solid points. There is many troops that only needs small fixes. Like going from double to triple damage etc. ---
**Author:** ![Namick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namick/32/104811_2.png) [@Namick](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namick)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/286 "2017-09-02T15:31:59Z")
I think that if would be better with deal triple damage to entangled and then entangle all enemies. Maybe even destroy some armor before damage. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106/287 "2017-09-03T15:54:32Z")
## ORION ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/1/c15ba2981bb51c2fb49fe31c832692dbcce36e79.jpg) [http://gowdb.com/troops/6069](http://gowdb.com/troops/6069) [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=13) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/daily-troop-discussion/29106.md?page=15)