# Crimson Bat is back! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [March 31, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062 "2016-03-31T08:05:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/41 "2016-05-02T16:44:18Z")
My sentiment exactly lol ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/42 "2016-05-02T16:45:24Z")
The 2x bat deck is one of the best in the game and has been for a while now. Soothsayer Valk Bat Bat Im actually going to switch it up now that I can finish traiting my bat to: Bat Sooth Valk Bat ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/43 "2016-05-02T16:46:00Z")
Yeah been running the 1st one you mentioned for quite a bit now. Its very good. 🙂 Probably gonna switch too when I get the traits. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/44 "2016-05-02T16:59:36Z")
I really wish I had a second Bat 😢 ---
**Author:** ![luhue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@luhue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/luhue)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/45 "2016-05-02T17:17:09Z")
I was wondering if this would be a viable bat team?: Jarl \*\*\* Valk \*\*\* Bat \*\*\* Mercy \*\* (unfort, i do not have empowered yet) Jarl’s red/yellow spam would ‘hopefully’ fill him and Valk. Valk would in turn fill Bat and Mercy with blue over-flow. Jarl would also deal damage with the 4/5 ways created with the blue, red, and yellow gem spamming. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/46 "2016-05-02T17:19:54Z")
Safe team, but very slow…IMO of course ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/47 "2016-05-02T17:32:17Z")
I haven’t found a good combination of Jarl and Valkyrie, personally. Jarl ideally wants the whole board to be red and yellow, so color-changers that change away from those colors reduce his effectiveness by a considerable margin. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/48 "2016-05-02T17:42:19Z")
Could consider a different Necromancy troop (i.e., the less coveted KoS, Flesh Golem, or Aziris). Aziris is probably the best option since Jarl would fill it very quickly enabling you to generate a lot of skulls (though the 10 or more purples is wasted). KoS doesn’t get filled by Jarl but its still a solid troop. ---
**Author:** ![Korbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/korbit/32/6407_2.png) [@Korbit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Korbit)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/49 "2016-05-02T17:44:58Z")
All Combinations are pretty useful here. I waited so long for the Bat. I like the flexibility a lot. Its pretty much fun to playing with this bloodsucker 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/50 "2016-05-02T17:46:47Z")
I used Bat + Crescendo for a while. 2x Bat seems far more effective. ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/51 "2016-05-02T17:55:39Z")
I use Gorgotha, Bat, Soothsayer, Crescendo. Maybe slower than a double bat, but good color coverage plus an extra turn. Like it a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/52 "2016-05-02T17:57:40Z")
Soothsayer Valk winter imp and crimson bat @dhjl team suggestion. Works faster than double bat IMO ---
**Author:** ![MrSammy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsammy/32/1957_2.png) [@MrSammy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSammy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/53 "2016-05-02T18:06:58Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > The bat lives once more. In all fairness, Crimson Bat has had more nerfs than any other troop in the game. It is nice to see it buffed for once, but only once, no more. 😛 Would’t the nerf medla go to Sheggra? She suffered quite a lot… ---
**Author:** ![Korbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/korbit/32/6407_2.png) [@Korbit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Korbit)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/54 "2016-05-02T18:10:59Z")
Agree @Koolbiird @RiverSong I experimented a lot in the last Time. Gorgotha is important. Definitely the first Position. Winter Imp a great addition… I changed him with Gob Shaman. Pretty good Support for Crescendo when you are using Gorgotha after Shaman. Bat on third Position. Last Crescendo. This and similar Combinations are fast as hell… There is definitely no need for a second Bat 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/55 "2016-05-02T18:14:00Z")
> [@MrSammy](#): > > Would’t the nerf medla go to Sheggra? She suffered quite a lot… @MrSammy That comment was prior to the Sheggra nerf. Crimson Bat has been nerfed more often than Sheggra, but Crimson Bat has also been buffed more often than Sheggra. Here were most of the changes in somewhat chronological order: Crimson Bat: - Life steal no longer works on enemies that are already dead - Life steal no longer works on magic - Magic reduction - HP within the game was raised - Kingdoms started getting more magic - Traits Sheggra: - Skull glitch - Skull glitch was fixed - Magic was increased - Ascension - Ascension and overall attack within the game was nerfed - Sheggra was nerfed to static 6 spawn - Mana reduced to 14 ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/56 "2016-05-02T18:20:15Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > - Kingdoms started getting more magic CB damage also was straight up buffed with 1.09 in addition to the extra magic kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/57 "2016-05-02T18:21:59Z")
Another bat team: Sooth Valk Bat Psion It’s a little slower, but draining mana helps keep you alive and Psion power gets better as people die. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062.md?page=2)