# Crimson Bat is back! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [March 31, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062 "2016-03-31T08:05:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/1 "2016-03-31T08:05:53Z")
Impossible not to love him now. What team do you recommend with him? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/2 "2016-03-31T08:44:47Z")
Soothsayer\*\*\* Soothsayer\*\*\* Herdmaster Crimson Bat Or if you have the leader trait on herdmaster you can put him in front. And if you’re worried about specific targeting of last position Crimson Bat you put him in the 3rd position. Then you’d end up with Herdmaster\*\* Soothsayer\*\*\* Crimson Bat Soothsayer\*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 9:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/3 "2016-03-31T09:15:11Z")
How effective would you said this team is? ---
**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/4 "2016-03-31T10:18:29Z")
I still go back to the team that I have been playing since 1.0.7…or at least when ever wild plains came out. Shadow Cat Valkyrie Crimson Bat Soothsayer ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/5 "2016-03-31T10:31:11Z")
Very nice, what level are you at now? Is it still quite effective? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/6 "2016-03-31T10:32:22Z")
Crimson Bat \*\*\* Crimson Bat \*\*\* Valkyrie \*\*\* Soothsayer \*\*\* Crimson Bat \*\*\* Psion \*\*\* Valkyrie \*\*\* Soothsayer \*\*\* Crimson Bat \*\*\* Gorgotha \*\*\* Crimson Bat \*\*\* Hero (Crescendo) (Sorcerer \*\*\*, +2 magic) I normally use the first build the most. There is a very high chance that one of the 3 cursed traits hit HP, which will make all skull damage for Crimson Bat do 2x damage from the start. Soothsayer’s cast can nearly fill Valkyrie or easily refill itself due to no blockage. I have 2 2x magic kingdoms, so it takes me about 2-4 Crimson Bat casts to wipe any team. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/7 "2016-03-31T13:00:20Z")
Are your bats mythics as well? Thats +1 magic in addition? ---
**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/8 "2016-03-31T13:04:30Z")
630, and I can win warlord 1-4 with ease as long as the AI doesn’t cascade skull damage before the shadow cat can blink. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/9 "2016-03-31T13:07:08Z")
Looking forward to pump up the Shadow cat as well. Need some souls for it tho, its great on warlords difficulties. My Bat is currently ready to go to mythic, but in case I need two Bats I spare the ascension for later. Need a little mixing and tricksing here, but will try your deck. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/10 "2016-03-31T13:10:02Z")
Is this the right thread to ask for some Behemoth love or am i wrong here? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/11 "2016-03-31T13:29:07Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Are your bats mythics as well? Thats +1 magic in addition? My bats start with 14 damage. That is mythic, level 20, all level 10 kingdoms, and 2 2x magic kingdoms. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/12 "2016-03-31T14:00:21Z")
Out with it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/13 "2016-03-31T15:00:54Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > Crimson Bat \*\*\*Crimson Bat \*\*\*Valkyrie \*\*\*Soothsayer \*\*\* > > Crimson Bat \*\*\*Psion \*\*\*Valkyrie \*\*\*Soothsayer \*\*\* I use both of these as my primary teams. Well, I only have traits on valk sooth, but those are my teams also. I’ll also run: Soothsayer_ **Valk** _psion_psion_ ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/14 "2016-03-31T22:09:22Z")
Oh my god put you bat away no one wants to see that…but looking at this chat a lot of people have their bats out of their cave. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/15 "2016-03-31T23:45:26Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > Oh my god put you bat away no one wants to see that…but looking at this chat a lot of people have their bats out of their cave. The bat lives once more. In all fairness, Crimson Bat has had more nerfs than any other troop in the game. It is nice to see it buffed for once, but only once, no more. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/16 "2016-04-01T04:56:27Z")
Crimson Bat was an early legendary I pulled and a core of my team for the early game, and even pvp through to level 200 or so… With stat gains as the patches came out, true damage was left behind and Batty became pretty weak… So now, I’m pleased to see true damage back in the meta and Batty very playable again… I play Gorgotha/ Gorgotha / Crescendo / Crimson Bat… Which is kinda fun and takes almost no skill to play 🙂 so I can multi-task… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/17 "2016-04-01T04:57:22Z")
How fast is this team? It looks quite safe tho. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/18 "2016-04-01T05:01:12Z")
Pretty fast once you have magic stat gains from kingdoms… I use brown/yellow banner and charge Gorgotha first… Explosions quickly fill the damage dealers and three casts of Crescendo or Bat will wipe the board… You can ignore skulls and let the AI have them (if you have Gorgotha’s third trait). A faster more aggressive variation is Bat / Gorgotha/ Crescendo / Bat… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/19 "2016-04-01T05:48:15Z")
If only I had the Arcane Blood Traitstones to actually get this guy to 3 traits…sigh. Back to the hamster wheel for me! ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062/20 "2016-04-01T15:03:59Z")
My variation is Crescendo / Soothsayer / Bat / Valk. Gets me those sweet sweet Souls and is very effective. And doesn’t require multiple legendaries, or multiple copies of them. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crimson-bat-is-back/5062.md?page=2)