# Crash at start: 2 or 4 GB RAM is not enough
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922 "2017-06-20T08:07:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/83 "2017-06-21T09:15:28Z")
please tell me more about what phone it will need š
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### Author:  [@Flip](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Flip)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/84 "2017-06-21T09:16:46Z")
Haa thatās funny! I payed over 1000 $ for my desktop š Itās a development I monitored since the game got bigger and bigger. I was thinking about why this game is so large for such a simple graphics design (2d style). So technically you āshouldā be able to play the game because I read that the beta testers used 500mb. [quote=āOzball, post:41, topic:25922ā]
This has been tested and none of the testers experienced this memory issue. We all had around 500MB usage (and still have that)
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Except you canāt. But Iām no developer so Iām just saying things about things I donāt know anything about š My gut is telling me itās a direct X / Unity problem.
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### Author:  [@Flip](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Flip)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/85 "2017-06-21T09:18:51Z")
So here is the website where you can look at the requirements for mobile phones: [https://unity3d.com/unity/system-requirements](https://unity3d.com/unity/system-requirements)
if you have android you need: Android: OS 4.1 or later; ARMv7 (Cortex) CPU with NEON support or Atom CPU; OpenGL ES 2.0 or later.
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### Author:  [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/87 "2017-06-21T09:19:57Z")
it doesnt say how much ram š
(also i was replying to the ārequire 1000$ comupterā meme)
i think i actually did buy a 1000$ computer š¤ and gow is working even on the mythic settings
but i was thinking if it requires 1000$ phone it would knock out too many users :s
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### Author:  [@Flip](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Flip)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/88 "2017-06-21T09:35:51Z")
Youāre absolutely right, Iām kinda new to this forum style. Lol should get it printed on a t-shirt š but that wouldnāt be fair to the developers since they are trying to fix it š Yes they would knock out too many players. One would believe gems of war knows what phones/desktops/laptops/consoles players use right.
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### Author:  [@Jan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jan)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/89 "2017-06-21T09:50:37Z")
Right now Iām using poor graphic card with DX9 besides I have 2 Gb Ram .Iām playing on legendary graphic settings and 1280 x 720 resolution , blur is off . Game starts only with ALT and left click on GoW play icon.
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### Author:  [@Aquaarius](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aquaarius)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/90 "2017-06-21T10:09:48Z")
> [@GoldPhoenix0](#):
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> -force-d3d9
worked for me. Thanks =)
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### Author:  [@NeilTur](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NeilTur)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/91 "2017-06-21T10:13:55Z")
After today update game using 650 MB RAM instead 2.4 GB, thx devs š
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### Author:  [@Flip](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Flip)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/92 "2017-06-21T11:55:11Z")
Well Iām glad it works for you š Iāve tried everything you did. Only difference is the graphics card and DirectX (Iām using Dx12).
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### Author:  [@Synthellite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Synthellite)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/93 "2017-06-21T14:35:20Z")
I can run the game now after the fix, but only on low graphical settings when not using any launch options.
With -force-opengl and -force-glcore the game is playable on higher graphical settings, but there is a chance the game crashes mid-battle.
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### Author:  [@Edward](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Edward)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/94 "2017-06-21T14:39:01Z")
With any settings, does not work!
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### Author:  [@Porky\_Pieman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Porky_Pieman)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/95 "2017-06-21T16:16:49Z")
Well after much messing around, a lot of swearing, a well kicked cat that will probably never come back and a couple of breaks inbetween the crashfests for a peep at my sunbathing neighbour Iāve come up with a fix.
Uninstall G.O.W
Forget all about it
Play on Pokerstars for real gold
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### Author:  [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/96 "2017-06-21T16:20:38Z")
This was swell comedy. Thanks for that.
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### Author:  [@GKaplan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GKaplan)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/97 "2017-06-21T17:17:19Z")
This sounds nice, Iāll try it!
UPDATE: Using ALT, on 1280 x 720, Fastest, Windowed mode, the game loads, the bar fill up, then it stopsā¦ Maybe on other graphics settings, it could work?
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### Author:  [@pilsken](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/pilsken)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/98 "2017-06-21T20:14:33Z")
After driver update and patch I had a very short success to start the game with
-force-glcore in 960x720 with only 16bit colors, full screen optimization deactivate (press right mouse button on game exe in folder ā properties)
But when I looked after 2 minutes in options menu with alt+tab at task manager (game needs only ~600MB ram) game crashed again. After all, a short success is better than nothing with only 2GB main ram. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce success at the moment.
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### Author:  [@Flip](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Flip)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/99 "2017-06-21T20:51:37Z")
Yeah so like 10 members in my Guild canāt play the game anymore. So Iām speaking on their behave. I hope weāll get some updated news about bug fixes and/or crash issues from the devs tomorrow. If the devs feel they need more info or whatever Iāll be glad to help. Please let me know.
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### Author:  [@pilsken](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/pilsken)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/100 "2017-06-21T21:24:37Z")
I could reproduce the success with 1280x720 resolution
but when I changed language from german to italian to english it crashed again. With new start the language changed more or lessā¦
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### Author:  [@GoldPhoenix0](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GoldPhoenix0)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/101 "2017-06-22T05:41:02Z")
> [@PC/Mobile 3.0.5 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-mobile-3-0-5-patch-notes/25899/224):
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> Hey All,
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> Just another small update we have pushed out, it contains the following features and bug fixes
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> Reduced memory usage on older devices and on lower graphics settings (after restarting the game)
> Chat no longer logs in at the start of the game if you have previously chosen to disconnect
> Connect to chat confirmation dialog
> Automatically detects and adjusts graphics settings on first load
> Fixed settings not saving when they are set to a default value (i.e blur not saving as off when it hasnāt been set before, when the default value is 2).
> Fixed possible crash when an error occurs in the userās data. Game should now exit gracefully
Hey All, We have just pushed out another new update which should reduce the memory usage.
We are still investigating the crash that some of you are experiencing, it looks like itās being caused by something deep in the Unity engine. For the rest of you, please try the new version and let us know if you are still experiencing any crashes or large memory usages.
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### Author:  [@Porky\_Pieman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Porky_Pieman)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/102 "2017-06-22T05:54:55Z")
Yayyyy, itās loaded for me, but, had my settings at really low res and windowed, so gonna log out, alter them, try again.
loaded straight away, thank you.
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### Author:  [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/crash-at-start-2-or-4-gb-ram-is-not-enough/25922/103 "2017-06-22T06:09:15Z")
Well the game is only pulling 550 MB of ram now, so thatās great. Except now it takes like 2 minutes to start, not a huge issue but mildly annoying.
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