# Craft Vault Keys **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 7:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076 "2021-07-20T07:45:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/1 "2021-07-20T07:45:15Z")
Yes, but not with other resources. Let us craft Vault keys by exchanging 4xCedric (a team worth) for one vault key and 8xCedric (2 teams worth) for an epic vault key. ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/2 "2021-07-20T22:28:40Z")
Oh no I disenchanted my cedrics. ---
**Author:** ![Gem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gem/32/68973_2.png) [@Gem](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gem)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/3 "2021-07-20T22:31:18Z")
> [@Wow](#): > > Oh no I disenchanted my cedrics Me too, same with mythic treasures before I realized I shouldn’t have not too long ago. ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/4 "2021-07-20T23:14:57Z")
Using extra troop copies to create things other than souls will never happen for the reasons above: players have disenchanted thousands of copies of things under the assumption that they will never need those extra copies FOR anything else (like, for instance, if they were to add a rarity above mythic that required ascending troops). ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/5 "2021-07-20T23:27:16Z")
whats a fair gem value for a vault key? 50 gems? If so, I dont see any reasons why it shouldnt be craftable for gems in the Soulforge. (Gems, not Diamonds - many mixing the two of them.) ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/6 "2021-07-21T00:14:22Z")
Way more than 50 gems. Gem value is determined by the max payouts possible, not by the average or the smallest, which is why they’re so often ridiculously inflated. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/7 "2021-07-21T00:16:48Z")
I have a daily offer today, a vk for 120 gems lol ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/8 "2021-07-21T00:23:09Z")
Is that discounted from 150? Either way, 2-3x 50 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/9 "2021-07-21T00:43:53Z")
You can get 300 gems from Cedric in a vault. So 50 gems for a vault key would never happen. That’s why at minimum I think they’re 150. ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/10 "2021-07-21T01:58:17Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/e/de09abb5525bd54e63406d6efadff86d1bf58bd3.jpeg) 900 gems ---
**Author:** ![alv-thanos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alv-thanos/32/62164_2.png) [@alv-thanos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alv-thanos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/11 "2021-07-21T02:49:28Z")
120 gems on vip 6 exclusive offer. ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/12 "2021-07-21T04:11:47Z")
That’s an epic vault key. 300 gems is the highest from cedric in a vault battle. Maximum gems that one can get from a VK is 300+3x6=318. ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/craft-vault-keys/71076/13 "2021-07-21T04:12:24Z")
And there it is. This feature request will not happen because of that.