# Cool screenshot topic

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [July 27, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368 "2016-07-27T06:14:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/245 "2016-12-03T19:36:37Z")

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ofc, why wouldnt they be?

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**Author:** ![utfanx2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/utfanx2/32/525_2.png) [@utfanx2](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/utfanx2)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/246 "2016-12-03T20:53:55Z")

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They are if your guild has over 10k seals.

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**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/247 "2016-12-04T19:25:36Z")

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I’m not really sure that the following screenshot fits the topic of this thread, but it’s definitely different:  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/4/493c417db2c45d02bdbeeed274a7f2d2bbc3fb48.jpg)

I had made one move and the ai hadn’t went yet. _Notice that Forest Guardian’s third trait overrides Spirit Fox’s Empowered trait._

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**Author:** ![Kurokazna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kurokazna/32/11246_2.png) [@Kurokazna](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kurokazna)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/248 "2016-12-04T23:11:12Z")

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Huh, odd. I wonder if that will be fixed.

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**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/249 "2016-12-04T23:15:23Z")

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That’s a good question. I thought about posting this in the bug reporting section but I’m not sure if this is a bug or if it’s working as intended. FG’s last trait does say, ‘_All_ Beasts start battle with 50% mana’

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**Author:** ![agentronin316](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/agentronin316/32/9921_2.png) [@agentronin316](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/agentronin316)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/250 "2016-12-05T03:13:11Z")

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If Forest Guardian is in front of Spirit Fox, would Empowered override FG’s 3rd trait? The traits trigger in order…

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**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/251 "2016-12-05T03:18:16Z")

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That’s a good point so I threw together a team and decided to try it.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/7de46968e14ad7fe7480b96ced27d4541c7ba9e1.jpg)

You were right.

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**Author:** ![psydotogist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/psydotogist/32/12747_2.png) [@psydotogist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/psydotogist)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/252 "2016-12-05T03:21:15Z")

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when the game start, the traits trigger from top to bot, so if fg in lower pos than spirit fox, the fg trait overwrite the spirit fox trait.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/253 "2016-12-05T03:57:17Z")

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Very interesting…

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/254 "2016-12-05T05:36:47Z")

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I doubt that’s deliberate… what happens if there’s a Fast Beast with Forest Guardian… logically the two 50% mana boosts should stack to 100%, but this example suggests the second 50% would just overwrite the first…

Are there even any Fast Beasts? Summoning @lyya 🙂

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/255 "2016-12-05T05:38:31Z")

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Spirit fox and Bunni’Nog I think.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/256 "2016-12-05T05:38:41Z")

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[Yes, there are.](http://ashtender.com/gems/trooptable?filter-type=Beast&filter-traits=Fast)

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/257 "2016-12-05T05:43:37Z")

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Why no Spirit Fox on your list?

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/258 "2016-12-05T05:45:43Z")

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I’ll answer my own question because spirit fox is empowered. Silly me. 😜😂

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**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/259 "2016-12-05T06:24:29Z")

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> [@Jainus](#):
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> but this example suggests the second 50% would just overwrite the first…

Not much need for the suggestion, as the same thing was tested (and reported on the forum) a while ago with the Mechanist class and Fast mechs.

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> logically the two 50% mana boosts should stack to 100%

Can’t see the logic you speak of. The trait says “starts with 50% mana”, and nothing about a boost. You can stack 100 of the same trait, and they all just say the same thing - you start with 50% mana, so that what should happen.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/260 "2016-12-05T07:19:09Z")

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> [@yonizaf](#):
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> Can’t see the logic you speak of. The trait says “starts with 50% mana”, and nothing about a boost. You can stack 100 of the same trait, and they all just say the same thing - you start with 50% mana, so that what should happen

I disagree with your logic - but agree the text is ambiguous and open to different interpretation. I believe they _should_ stack in the same way that stat gains stack… I read ‘start with 50% mana’ as ‘at start of battle, gain mana equal to 50% of max’…

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**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/261 "2016-12-05T07:27:45Z")

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> [@Jainus](#):
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> I believe they should stack

Ignoring the wording question, I really think they shouldn’t. Starting fully Empowered is not an option that should be given lightly to any troop, let alone whole teams. Imagine double Forest Guardian, double Kerberos - you have two devouring troops and two skull spammers, all empowered…

Empowered should stay as it is, only available to troops that were carefully selected for it, otherwise we’re going to end up with a whole bunch of new broken teams to deal with.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 7:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/262 "2016-12-05T07:33:10Z")

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> [@yonizaf](#):
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> I really think they shouldn’t

> [@yonizaf](#):
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> Imagine double Forest Guardian, double Kerberos

Yes, you have a point there. Perhaps devs don’t intend for them to stack. It’s presumably just a bug that FG overwrites Empowered though…

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**Author:** ![Verdugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/verdugo/32/9407_2.png) [@Verdugo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Verdugo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/263 "2016-12-06T22:38:10Z")

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Finally hit 63% on them all.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/5d02cf8fe4bf271932ea7cf26d128f75d30622bf.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Inferno666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cab0a1/32.png) [@Inferno666](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Inferno666)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/264 "2016-12-07T22:15:06Z")

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Max Attack and Life for Valkyrie and Queen Mab using only Justice.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/6/6caf6dda436bfe5ec2eac47915f705cf1b430ce0.png)

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