# Continue to underwhelm

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [May 26, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396 "2016-05-26T08:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/1 "2016-05-26T08:53:46Z")

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Sure it’s only ME to blame for after almost 2 years of consistent negative experience I still appear to hope that the devs can do anything right. Just to be proved wrong. Again and again.

I am completely baffled how on earth a team can put in the field so many showstopper level bugs that are obvious by just playing the game for 10 minutes. Ever heard of the idea to try the frigging produce before the commit? If the programmer is too lazy to do that himself maybe hire a tester who will do that? Or if going the cheap way, open a beta program so a few hundred willing candidates can to it for free?

Just from the top of my haed a few issues I stumbled on the first minutes:

- invade no longer remembers my used team – i have to select it every time. (possibly using the defend team for invade)
- the ‘Defend’ button is gone, on the defend tab if I try to switch the defend team, it jut locks the interface, tab buttons and close not working, can only use alt-F4.
- I played an esay offer then a hard and got the rewards for the easy again
- the numbers and stats look completely out of whack (some other post suggests it a known bug).

In short the new pvp that is the main feature of the release put the whole system on its knees.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/2 "2016-05-26T08:55:14Z")

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> [@Pasa](#):
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> Sure it’s only ME to blame for after almost 2 years of consistent negative experience

Why are you still playing this game???

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**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/3 "2016-05-26T08:58:37Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> > [@Pasa](#):
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> > Sure it’s only ME to blame for after almost 2 years of consistent negative experience
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> Why are you still playing this game???

Quite irrelevant, isn’t it? I’d be happy to quit if it made the bugs go away for others, but I doubt there is a connection. O,O

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/4 "2016-05-26T09:02:20Z")

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I assume it can’t be this bad then, since you are still playing this game? Nobody would had played a game after 2 years of consistent negative experience, so be honest and edit your post.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/5 "2016-05-26T09:09:09Z")

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Honestly, you’re completely negative. All the time. I bet there are a dozen different people who were waiting for you to post something _exactly_ like this.

There are bugs, yes, but you’re overreacting _as per usual_. Half of this stuff is going to be fixed in the next 24 hours anyway.

The patch has been out for _how long_ now? A few hours? Give them a break.

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/6 "2016-05-26T09:14:53Z")

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After testing it with like 100 ai to check the ladder, tbh This is running alot smoother than i had expected and like i had predicted. I grabbed my popcorn and like clockwork hate for the update is rolling in slowly.

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**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/7 "2016-05-26T09:17:08Z")

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> [@Shimrra](#):
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> The patch has been out for _how long_ now? A few hours? Give them a break.

I thought for a change I deserved a break. My bad as mentioned.

Also there may be some fundamental difference in the culture. When I mess up and allow a bug out of the door, and the customer gets hit, I definitely not think he is being the negative. Also my boss will put the blame on me as the developer. I consider it my responsibility to push out working stuff.

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/8 "2016-05-26T09:49:05Z")

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Hi Pasa,

TL;DR - I agree, quite a few bugs in the new systems, many of them unforeseeable because of scale issues that have caused them. None of them absolute show-stoppers though. We’re all here, working on deploying fixes asap!

Longer answer…

Large software systems always have bugs, as I’m sure you’re aware, being a developer… games even more so, because of our tight deadlines & small budgets & the cutting edge that we often dance around on.

We’re quite happy to take ownership for the bugs - we’re here tracking them, everybody is working late to address issues that are their responsibility. As I often mention, even behemoths like Blizzard & Riot release with bugs that aren’t dissimilar to the kind of stuff we’re getting here - real time online systems with heavy loads create issues that can’t always be tested or anticipated by regular QA.

I’m of the opinion that every game dev team is going to create games with bugs, but it’s how you address the bugs and keep the community informed that is the most important thing.

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/9 "2016-05-26T09:51:03Z")

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I’d like your post, but I’m out of likes again \>\<

> [@Sirrian](#):
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> I’m of the opinion that every game dev team is going to create games with bugs, but it’s how you address the bugs and keep the community informed that is the most important thing.

I completely agree with the statement. I’ve played a number of online games over the years and this is the area that separates the good teams from the bad. And you guys have generally been really good about it. Keep it up!

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/10 "2016-05-26T10:01:01Z")

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> [@Ozball](#):
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> I’d like your post, but I’m out of likes again \>\<

How do you run out of likes? Here is a like so maybe you can give sirrian a like. I love this game for its dev team and its community more than the pvp update at the moment. Wish i could play unrated and still get to tier 1 in pvp.

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/11 "2016-05-26T10:02:28Z")

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Unfortunately that didn’t let me have another like ☹ I guess I’ll wait 49 minutes XD

I run out from using them too much. I use it as an agree button most of the time.

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/12 "2016-05-26T10:03:49Z")

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Oh on the topic of underwhelming that like situation takes the cake.

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/13 "2016-05-26T11:54:23Z")

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Haha I saw the post title and INSTANTLY knew the author!

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**Author:** ![Dustin1280](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dustin1280/32/7970_2.png) [@Dustin1280](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dustin1280)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/14 "2016-05-26T14:54:43Z")

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You know I have only been on the gems forum for a little less then 3 months and I already know your name. I don’t think I have EVER seen you write something positive about this game. All I have heard coming out of your mouth is complaints.

If you have had a CONSISTENT negative experience for 2 years, why would you be playing this game at all? I know if I felt that way about gems I would have quit a long time ago.

When I think of you I imagine the gamer that complains about everything all the time. Who is NEVER satisfied and never throws a bone to anyone.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/15 "2016-05-26T15:16:48Z")

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I think it’s more a matter of needing to vent frustrations. There are some very valid complaints about the patch, and I think it’s easy to focus on the messenger and miss the message.

Then again, some people _are_ only happy when it rains. 😉

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**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/continue-to-underwhelm/7396/16 "2016-05-26T15:25:29Z")

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> [@killerman3333](#):
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> Wish i could play unrated and still get to tier 1 in pvp.

I believe that you should! Please check out my thread and comment. I think you will agree with my sentiment @killerman3333

> [@2.0 PvP Modification Suggestion](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424):
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> So, 2.0 is live. Bugs exist and the devs are exterminating as we speak. People stayed up late to play and tempers flared when expectations were not met and/or exceeded. I was one of those people. I logged in late, played too long, read forums, got frustrated, but held my tongue. I woke this morning read MORE forums and gave this a lot of thought before starting this thread, I apologize for the backstory, but I think it’s important to understand that I am approaching this calmly. It is my under…
