# CONSOLE: Snakes and Ladders

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [July 2, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808 "2017-07-02T23:30:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/21 "2017-07-03T22:43:00Z")

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Yeah, I had a bad run in with Abby when I returned to the game. I foolishly tried to use Event Keys and all my Gems to pull her out of the Event Chest. Never ever again. I spend everything.

Just in case you want to know, here were your odds…

300 vip chests. 51% Chance of Dwarf  
500+100 gem+guild chests. 45% Chance of Dwarf  
1000 glory chests. 10% Chance of Dwarf

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/22 "2017-07-03T22:58:52Z")

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Gards, pharos, jotnar and wulf all cost me a fortune compared to some lucky guildies. It was a 4month period of constantly getting screwed. Almost quit game over it. 50k+ gems gone.

Every other mythic though couldn’t wait to jump into my collection and cost me almost nothing. Multiple copies were dropping with ease. Looks like since I came back to the game and changed guilds that my Luck also came back. 2 ketras & 2 stonehammer cost me almost nothing.

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/23 "2017-07-03T23:03:43Z")

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It’s the Quimby factor my friend!

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**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/24 "2017-07-03T23:22:19Z")

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> [@Strat](#):
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> Yeah, I had a bad run in with Abby when I returned to the game. I foolishly tried to use Event Keys and all my Gems to pull her out of the Event Chest. Never ever again. I spend everything.
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> Just in case you want to know, here were your odds…
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> 300 vip chests. 51% Chance of Dwarf  
> 500+100 gem+guild chests. 45% Chance of Dwarf  
> 1000 glory chests. 10% Chance of Dwarf

Your VIP calculation is off  
1-(0.99)^300 = 95.1%

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/25 "2017-07-04T00:08:56Z")

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Ha! I dropped an ALL important 9 when typing in up!!! Thanks for the correction.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/26 "2017-07-04T05:58:32Z")

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> [@Rasper](#):
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> 1-(0.99)^300 = 95.1%

That make no sense i didin’t catch it

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**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/27 "2017-07-04T06:04:33Z")

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If you have a 1% chance to get a mythic in a VIP chest then you have a 99% chance you won’t.

If you open 2 chests, the odds you won’t get one is that 99% squared (.99 \* .99) which is 98.01% of being denied. You opening 300 chests mean the odds of you not getting 1 is that 99% ^ 300 which is 4.9% chance you won’t get one or 95.1% chance you will.

I’m other words, you rolled a 1 on your d20 when anything else would have been a win. Saving throw failed. Sorry man.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/28 "2017-07-04T06:06:27Z")

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For each trial (key to open), there is a P=0.01 chance of the event to occur (Mythic acquisition). Therefore, you have a 99% chance to fail, and a 1% chance to succeed at that one key opening.

Assuming you succeeded (1%), it doesn’t matter how many other successes you get after that first opening, you’ve now succeeded.

Assuming you failed (99%), you now have another 1% chance to succed and a 99% chance to fail the second trial.

Therefore, the odds of failing every single trial can be calculated as:  
99% x 99% x 99% x 99% … for all trials, and in this case, since there are 300 trials, that means 99% ^ 300, or 0.99^300.

Success is if you didn’t fail every single trial, so it is 1 - (0.99^300), which works out to be 0.951, or 95.1%.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/29 "2017-07-04T06:06:39Z")

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Too bad the legendary task are not working with the mythic exclusivity cause we just got plague

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**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/30 "2017-07-04T06:08:05Z")

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…

Oh the hardship. 😛

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/31 "2017-07-04T06:10:58Z")

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I guess it’s not a good time to buy lotto ticket lol

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/32 "2017-07-04T06:12:34Z")

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Legendary tasks do not adhere to the mythic exclusivity. This exclusivity only applies to chests.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/33 "2017-07-04T06:13:13Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> Legendary tasks do not adhere to the mythic exclusivity. This exclusivity only applies to chests.

Yeah i know salty and it really suck lol

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/34 "2017-07-04T06:16:01Z")

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> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> That make no sense i didin’t catch it

300 is not that many to guarantee one. Another way to think about is if everyone in your Guild opened 300 VIP chests Mythic just like you 1 or 2 would walk away with NO Mythic over the long run. (rounding for illustration)

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/35 "2017-07-04T06:20:21Z")

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Yeah and one guildmate got 3 with only 50 vip and i hate him 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/36 "2017-07-04T06:21:49Z")

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> [@Strat](#):
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> 300 is not that many to guarantee one.

But if you pay for it this is very expensive

300 vip chest= 600$ and no guarantee this is ridiculous

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/console-snakes-and-ladders/26808/37 "2017-07-04T06:25:19Z")

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> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> > [@Strat](#):
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> > 300 is not that many to guarantee one.
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> But if you pay for it this is very expensive  
> 300 vip chest= 600$ and no guarantee this is ridiculous

Your probably right, but I’m not in charge of changing the Mythic drop rate. 😉😁🕶. You’ll have to make your case to them. 😜

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