# Confused on where to farm traitstones **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [December 25, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340 "2015-12-25T16:57:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kennfusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@kennfusion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kennfusion)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/1 "2015-12-25T16:57:17Z")
So if I have finished all of the story content and all of the challenges a long time ago, and I needed minor wind traitstones, where would I go? I don’t think I get the intent here of the developers. Am I better of not tying to get traitstones from gameplay directly and just use maps to collect gold and keys for traitstones? What have other people found as helpful to find the stones you need? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/2 "2015-12-25T17:01:47Z")
Traitstones earned from fights will be based on the kingdom you are fighting in. The only way to really increase your chances of getting specific traitstones is to set your home kingdom to the color/s you want, such that your defense fights will all be there. Wind (Yellow) is easiest to find in Whitehelm; luckily a lot of people run that kingdom as their home right now. ---
**Author:** ![dhjl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dhjl/32/3981_2.png) [@dhjl](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/dhjl)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/3 "2015-12-25T17:04:09Z")
You can find the full list of kingdom traitstones here: > [@Guide to Traits - 1.0.8](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guide-to-traits-1-0-8/2012/41): > > First of all, great guide. I am pretty sure the following list was already posted somewhere on this forum but I wasn’t able to find it today. This list is copied from our Rainmakers facebook page. Hope it will add usefull information to this guide. I will also have everything together on one place smile Sorts of Traitstones you get when: invading this Kingdom playing Challenges/Quests in this Kingdom Revenging with this as your home Kingdom Adana: Fire / Wind Broken Spire: Water / Eart… ---
**Author:** ![kennfusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@kennfusion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kennfusion)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/4 "2015-12-25T17:06:52Z")
So am I better off playing PvP and hoping to get attacked after changing my kingdom to Whitestone, or replaying the challenges in Whitestone? I guess I can test the challenges and see what they give me. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/5 "2015-12-25T17:08:20Z")
If you really want to get a dozen or two traitstones _quick_, then yes. They should all give you Wind in Whitehelm. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 7:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/6 "2015-12-26T07:39:20Z")
I thing you should use your maps to get keys that can then turn into trait stones. I run valk and serpent so i feel the pinch across the board for trait stones ---
**Author:** ![7ekn00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/7ekn00/32/5532_2.png) [@7ekn00](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/7ekn00)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/7 "2015-12-26T12:24:24Z")
Do Arcanes drop from challenges? I have done 400 challenges in Karakoth looking for “Arcane Death” traitstone, but nothing yet … 7 ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/8 "2015-12-26T14:05:43Z")
It should drop there. 400 times without it just means the drop rate is a lot worse than I thought it was. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/9 "2015-12-26T14:26:20Z")
I received one Khetar Spirit Arcane in Challenge mode. But very rare drop… ---
**Author:** ![sethrogensbackhair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sethrogensbackhair/32/563_2.png) [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-on-where-to-farm-traitstones/2340/10 "2015-12-26T14:53:55Z")
> [@7ekn00](#): > > Do Arcanes drop from challenges? I have done 400 challenges in Karakoth looking for “Arcane Death” traitstone, but nothing yet … 400?i get them much more regularly than that 0o ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/4/44307cf65bb42ec797e3bb913fd7b44dca094234.PNG)