# Confused about the new caps **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 26, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369 "2016-10-26T02:00:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Druss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@Druss](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Druss)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/1 "2016-10-26T02:00:39Z")
I understand that the soul limit is 40. However going into a battle with both Valk & Keeper of Souls this increases to 60? I could understand cap increasing to 50 (+25% Necromancy on keeper) but why 60? Valk no longer has Necromancy. Secondly I did 3 challenge matches on the trot. 2 of them I hit the soul limit early & still created more souls in the process of finishing the match - came away with 213 souls (warlord 4 + celestial) the other match I hit the 60 limit by killing the last dude - this gave me 177 souls. Why? Also my gold seem to increase at a very fast pace - I’m not using any gold creating troops (Green Seer, Dragon Soul, Giant spider & Tyri). On a single match 4 my gold counter goes up 12? I normally hit the 100 cap within 4 or 5 moves? ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/2 "2016-10-26T02:01:40Z")
Edit: My mistake ---
**Author:** ![Druss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@Druss](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Druss)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/3 "2016-10-26T02:03:16Z")
shows as 40 using the spider army shown above ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/4 "2016-10-26T02:06:04Z")
The base soul cap is 40, necromancy will increase the soul cap. ---
**Author:** ![Scala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/scala/32/12470_2.png) [@Scala](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Scala)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/5 "2016-10-26T02:06:27Z")
The cap remains at 40. Sirrian mentioned the 25% being bugged and reverting to 50%. Not sure if that’s the case here. ---
**Author:** ![Druss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@Druss](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Druss)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/6 "2016-10-26T02:09:09Z")
I understand that nec increases cap - Scala’s reasoning may be sound, what of the other issues? ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/7 "2016-10-26T03:48:34Z")
60 is the base cap after Necromancy, but before armor, VIP and difficulty bonuses. The total souls you get clearly include those multipliers. ---
**Author:** ![QQChyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/0ea827/32.png) [@QQChyler](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/QQChyler)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/8 "2016-10-26T04:51:05Z")
I have the same confusion. I did challenges with Celestial Armour and Warlord 4 with two different troops, 1 with Valk and Flesh Golem for Necromancy, another with Dragon Soul and Keeper of Souls for Necromancy. Both times the cap was 60 as and I hit the cap both times. But with Dragon Soul/KOS I got 213 souls and with Valk/Flesh Golem I got 206 souls. Shouldn’t the number be the same given that the bonuses/soul cap within the game is the same? ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/9 "2016-10-26T05:25:54Z")
Bonuses given via the multiplier are calculated **_AFTER_** the match has ended and the amount has been totaled. The cap you see in battle is always 40, except with every Necromancy adding +20 to that cap. So playing a match with a reached 60 Soul cap and a x1.5 multiplier = 90 Souls upon match end. While a reached 40 Soul cap with a x2 multiplier = 80 Souls. So you might not know what you’ll actually get until the match has ended, or you’re paying close attention to all the hidden math. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/10 "2016-10-26T06:38:53Z")
But do Necromancy continue to boost soul earning from spell? For example, one cast of Avina is 24 souls. Do it increase to 30 souls? EDIT: the souls coming from the dead troops are added to the soul counter? ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/11 "2016-10-26T06:47:20Z")
yes, as of now, yes at 50%. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/12 "2016-10-26T06:56:30Z")
So you don’t care anymore if the troop with Necromancy die before the end of the battle? ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/13 "2016-10-26T07:56:18Z")
Does necromancy only raise the cap from 40 to 60? Or if you get 20 souls in one match does it increase it to 30? ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/confused-about-the-new-caps/14369/14 "2016-10-26T10:34:04Z")
If your troop with Necromancy die, you will not obtain the bonus… whereas the counter said the contrary… For example (my soul bonus is x3.5), when I use one time Valkyrie with one Necromancy troop alive, I have 30/60 souls and I obtained 105 souls. But if the troop with Necro die, I still have 30/60 but only 70 souls…