# CONCEPT TEAM: Need a PC/Mobile tester **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [October 5, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348 "2016-10-05T19:14:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/41 "2016-10-12T23:57:03Z")
For me, it’s not the same at all. If I fill EK and then fill Bat instead of firing off EK, there’s enough damage done from Bat that the first cast of EK will likely kill the first 2 enemies. All I have to do at that point is fill EK one more time and it’s over. Trust me, I’ve tried pretty much every config of EK there is - for me, EK / Valk / Bat / Mercy is the best. ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/42 "2016-10-13T00:03:29Z")
I’d put Mercy instead of Rowanne. My current main PvP deck is : EK - Valk - Mab/Bat - Mercy. Works pretty well for me. It has everything… stun/freeze lock, board control, loop, speed, cleanse. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/43 "2016-10-13T00:05:18Z")
While Mab’s 3rd trait is a nice compliment to EK’s 3rd trait, Impervious and Mana Shield can be a pain in the butt. That’s why I lean a little more towards using Bat instead of Mab. ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/44 "2016-10-13T00:06:56Z")
and that’s exactly why I switch Mab and Bat in that deck. =) ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/45 "2016-10-13T00:08:41Z")
I’m too lazy to switch back and forth. 😳 If I come up against a team I don’t think my EK team matches up well against, I switch to another entire team… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/46 "2016-10-13T00:25:48Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > there’s enough damage done from Bat that the first cast of EK will likely kill the first 2 enemies. I said exactly this but you didn’t understand it. But yeah first 2 troops will be killed either by double EK cast or combined casts of battles and EK. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/47 "2016-10-13T00:26:38Z")
And when I say double EK cast I don’t mean first EK casting twice. Valk will fill both of them so their 2 casts. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/48 "2016-10-13T00:27:38Z")
Right, but in my experience 1 cast of Bat + 2 casts of EK is a bit faster than filling both EK’s twice and firing them off twice. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348/49 "2016-10-13T00:31:34Z")
That’s true, I’m talking about the safer way not the slightly faster. Also bat + ek won’t always kill top first troops. Mostly? Yes, but about 30% of the time they won’t (talking about end game team here). Double EK killing first 2 troops? They will always. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/concept-team-need-a-pc-mobile-tester/13348.md?page=2)