# Classic PvP mode
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [June 15, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764 "2019-06-15T08:23:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/1 "2019-06-15T08:23:53Z")
PvP sucks with all these empowered converters destroying half your team before you even get a second turn. Leave ranked and casual as they are and add in a classic option banning empowered converters and empowered skull converters. Could even disable weapon upgrades and talent trees.
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### Author:  [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/2 "2019-06-15T09:41:59Z")
It’s called arena. 😜
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### Author:  [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/3 "2019-06-15T09:54:31Z")
> [@Fleg](#):
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> It’s called arena. 😜
Cool but how do I use my Infernus or the nature link on my Goblin? How do I create my own team using all of my available troops with all their traits? Arena is not even close to what I’m asking for.
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/4 "2019-06-15T10:32:05Z")
Fleg knew that. He was just being snarky.
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/5 "2019-06-15T13:28:13Z")
You don’t even get Champion XP in arena either, worst change ever.
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### Author:  [@BelethS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BelethS)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/6 "2019-06-15T14:19:09Z")
I could agree with the sugestion, as long as empowered converters and skull spawners will be disabled for attacker as well.
Thus attackers could kiss goodbye to teams like taipan/YG/titania, mercy/ishbaala/infernus, skeleton key/greed, gimlet/king bloodhammer/glaycion, fire bomb/lust/JoE, etc👏
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### Author:  [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/7 "2019-06-15T18:04:56Z")
But Skeleton Key/Greed team has no empowered converter or skull spawner 😉. Same with Fire Bomb teams.
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### Author:  [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/8 "2019-06-15T20:54:34Z")
i want classic mode to have magic boosted gem spawn version of webspinner and bone dragon like in 2015 xD
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### Author:  [@BelethS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BelethS)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/9 "2019-06-15T21:18:24Z")
Greed converts life to gold. And firebomb is an empowered gem destroyer…technically one could be argue that it converts gems to explosions…
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### Author:  [@BelethS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BelethS)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/10 "2019-06-15T21:19:27Z")
It’d be fun to have the original pre-nerf bone dragon lol. The DE complaintrains will be nothing in comparation…
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### Author:  [@The\_Freak](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/The_Freak)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/11 "2019-06-15T22:18:12Z")
> [@en9nhcet](#):
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> i want classic mode to have magic boosted gem spawn version of webspinner and bone dragon like in 2015 xD
And Divine Ishbaala with cleanse all again 😍
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/12 "2019-06-16T02:13:18Z")
I still believe people who want a _strategic_ GoW would benefit from a mode with no free turns.
Empowered troops are strong, but not as strong when you just get “a lot of mana” and not a free turn to use it. Converters are strong, but mostly because you usually expect to get a lot of mana, a free turn, and a board set up with another free turn on it. If the free turn isn’t there, a lot of troops we consider crucial for teams today would be liabilities.
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### Author:  [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/13 "2019-06-16T03:51:53Z")
Given that the suggestion is for a standalone mode, I could go for ‘no free turns’ to try it out! Could be good/interesting.
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### Author:  [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/14 "2019-06-16T04:18:18Z")
Well, Greed isn’t converting anything. That would mean he loses life and it becomes gold like Dark Priestess drains life and converts it into attack.
Anyway, it was a tongue in cheek comment.
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/15 "2019-06-16T05:18:52Z")
I wouldn’t mind trying a no traits pvp. (including the traits that trigger at the start of battles)
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/classic-pvp-mode/55764/16 "2019-06-16T21:37:40Z")
Oh. That’s a really simple idea but when I thought through a few matches it really does change the game. I can’t tell if I want “no traits” or “no free turns” more now.