# Children of the Thorn

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [September 1, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033 "2024-09-01T23:00:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Gems-of-War](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gems-of-war/32/2281_2.png) [@Gems-of-War](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gems-of-War)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/1 "2024-09-01T23:00:00Z")

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Originally published at: [Children of the Thorn – Gems of War](https://gemsofwar.com/children-of-the-thorn/)  
   
New Ultra-Rare Troop: Thorn Scout The Thorn Scout will be available this week for 300 Glory in the shop as well as in Event Chests, and will appear in Glory, Gem, and Guild chests in 3-4 weeks’ time. New Doomed Weapon: Doomed Aegis This week it will be available in both the Tower of Doom…

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**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/2 "2024-09-03T13:58:15Z")

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Ugh looks like this round of Doomed weapons are really bad

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/3 "2024-09-03T14:02:34Z")

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Can’t remember any decent doomed weapon since 2022

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**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/4 "2024-09-06T02:24:50Z")

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The last round of Doomed Weapons was really good and I also like this one. So I’m not unhappy with them at all.

But I have another question. Did anyone make the math how many points per average are needed for every player in a full guild to earn all rewards?

We’re far behind to where we usually are and I’m wondering why …

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**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/5 "2024-09-06T03:35:35Z")

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> [@Hayabusa](#):
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> Did anyone make the math how many points per average are needed for every player in a full guild to earn all rewards?

Tier 6 (first Orb of Chaos) = 3+5+7+10+15+20 = 60 points  
Tier 10 (first Shiny Key) = 60+150+150+250 = 610 points  
Tier 16 (all rewards) = 350+300+200+150+150+150 = 1300 points

Divided by 30 active players means a maximum of:

- Tier 6 = 2 floors per (estimating 3\* sigils per floor)  
_(the statistical average is 3.5 sigils per floor assuming no Scrolls of Luck/Fireball/Heroism are involved)_
- Tier 10 = ~20 floors per
- Tier 16 = ~43 floors per

_(edit: corrected my math)_

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**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/6 "2024-09-06T03:46:50Z")

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Without getting into longwinded rambling - 66 dooms per player (and your guild ends with 10 extra dooms).

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**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/children-of-the-thorn/85033/7 "2024-09-06T04:17:23Z")

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At least I’m above average already. But someone needs to add lots of battles or we won’t finish the last 4 stages … 😔
