# Cheating, terrible AI **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [June 19, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178 "2018-06-19T07:45:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/66 "2019-09-12T07:34:09Z")
(absently) And this guy didn’t even try delves into Stonesong Eyrie with a pure faction team… ---
**Author:** ![Syking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Syking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syking)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/67 "2020-05-17T15:45:01Z")
Recalled bias huh…wat abt Wild Queen dodging 4 skull atks in a row. Enemy team hero already dead, left Wild Queen and another troop. Later checked n realized Wild Queen doesn’t have dodge skull atk trait. This was in GW against a high level team, 16k pwr. And if u have the dodge skull trait say 20% vs a high level enemy, maybe lv400, that has the same…they will dodge skull abt half the time. But when they atk u, it’s almost a sure hit. I haven’t test the difference between f2p n paying players. One day when im free, i will n publish my findings factually. ---
**Author:** ![Syking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Syking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syking)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/68 "2020-05-17T15:47:56Z")
And one more, Queen Grapplepot frozen but still get her extra turn at match4…bug? RNG? ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/69 "2020-05-17T17:19:38Z")
4 match extra turn is dependent on the colors that were matched, which means the color matched was not a color queen grapplepot has. The AI doesn’t cheat. It’s actually tremendously awful and makes horrible mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Syking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Syking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syking)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/70 "2020-05-17T21:57:56Z")
It was her mana color. That’s why i was so surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Syking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Syking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syking)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/71 "2020-05-17T22:00:17Z")
Horrible decisions??? Have u played against level 500 enemies??? It is clearly very different from a level 100 enemy. ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/72 "2020-05-18T03:05:36Z")
I’m level 1475 with 47,990 renown. So yes, I’ve played against level 500 enemies. ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/73 "2020-05-18T06:00:37Z")
It does feel like we’re being cheated by the AI, but it is extremely difficult to prove that a luck based game written in terms of numbers cheats regularly. On a day you feel like being beaten hard by AI, just remember not to buy lottery in real life. There are such days for sure, mate. ---
**Author:** ![Syking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Syking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syking)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/74 "2020-05-18T06:20:26Z")
Maybe cheating is the wrong word to use here. I was using the term following this thread owner. Based on my observations, at high level, the AI definitely plays differently. Maybe they analyze more steps ahead, i dunno. But again, back to the frozen Grapplepot still getting extra turns (her mana color). And Wild Queen dodging skull atks despite not having dodge trait. So… ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/75 "2020-05-18T19:05:14Z")
I came across a situation of being denied an extra turn too, but I felt it was more of a glitch than the AI having its way. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/76 "2020-05-18T20:32:29Z")
Without a video it’s basically impossible for us to help analyze what might have happened — whether it was a bug or normal gam function 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/77 "2020-05-18T20:37:51Z")
The AI is dumb, and is easy to bait. HOWEVER, I am 100% convinced that the AI “knows” what gem drops are coming and makes moves based upon this. There is no other explanation for some of its actions. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178/78 "2020-05-18T20:39:25Z")
It happens, unfortunately. Something to get used to - shrug and move on. Just hope it doesn’t occur when it matters (e.g. Guild Wars) [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cheating-terrible-ai/41178.md?page=3)