# Charm vs Barrier?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [September 18, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443 "2017-09-18T15:45:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robbg1986](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@Robbg1986](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robbg1986)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/1 "2017-09-18T15:45:09Z")

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This has probably been discussed plenty of times but why does Barrier not work against charm, it literally makes no sense to me.

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**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/2 "2017-09-18T15:47:09Z")

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I personally think of Charm as a “psychic attack” so it makes sense to me that Barrier wouldn’t defend against it (since barrier is attacks against your physical person, by either physical or magic attacks). But given how stupid Wisps are, I fully support this change.

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**Author:** ![Alumirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Alumirus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alumirus)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/3 "2017-09-18T15:51:11Z")

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Bear in mind that Wisp dispels all enemies first (getting rid of the barrier) then charms.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/4 "2017-09-18T15:51:13Z")

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Are you saying that Barrier should protect the troop hit by the Charm spell? or should prevent the damage when an adjacent ally is charmed?

> [@Alumirus](#):
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> Bear in mind that Wisp dispels all enemies first (getting rid of the barrier) then charms.

Good point, too.

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**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/5 "2017-09-18T15:53:25Z")

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I would assume Barrier negates Charm (and then is popped). Same as though Charm were a damage spell or skull attack.

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**Author:** ![Robbg1986](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@Robbg1986](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robbg1986)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/6 "2017-09-18T15:56:13Z")

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This makes sense then, I guess I never paid attention to the dispell part but now I see, although I think they should get rid of that, they gives these Wisps too many perks. Dispel, Extra turn, Stealthy, and 75% mana, Bonus purple, jumble, at least 2 of those could be nerfed.

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**Author:** ![MarioDaems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mariodaems/32/27855_2.png) [@MarioDaems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarioDaems)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/7 "2017-09-18T15:56:31Z")

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What does it actually do now? I mean:

- Does a charmed ally with barrier deal damage to his neighbors (and is the charmed ally’s barrier then popped)?
- Does an ally with barrier take damage from a charmed ally?

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**Author:** ![Robbg1986](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@Robbg1986](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robbg1986)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/8 "2017-09-18T16:01:23Z")

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You take damage no matter what, All barriers are dispelled (as the spell says) and then the Charm attack happens.

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**Author:** ![MarioDaems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mariodaems/32/27855_2.png) [@MarioDaems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarioDaems)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/charm-vs-barrier/30443/9 "2017-09-18T16:59:17Z")

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And without disspell spells? Pure charm I mean.