# Chaos Orbs Excrement
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [April 17, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234 "2019-04-17T15:10:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/1 "2019-04-17T15:10:33Z")
Please give us End Gamers something to do with the huge pile of š© that your RNG delivers courtesy of Chaos Orbs.
Such as 10 Wisdom Orbs - can be converted to 1 Ascension Orbs perhaps?
Something to help those players who RNG seems to think arenāt worthy of getting ZuulāGoth because of ābad luckā.
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### Author:  [@Barney\_Stinson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Barney_Stinson)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/3 "2019-04-17T16:03:34Z")
How many power orbs do you have ryan?
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### Author:  [@crazylady](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/crazylady)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/4 "2019-04-17T16:10:51Z")
I donāt know or care how many power orbs someone hasāit makes no difference to anyone except that playerā¦I also have tons and tons of growth orbs (both major and minor) that I will never ever use. It would make sense for us to be able to convert them to something useful. Kinda like the thousands and thousands of maps none of us will ever useā¦Iāll trade 5k maps for 1 gem at this point.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/5 "2019-04-17T16:17:21Z")
> [@Barney\_Stinson](#):
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> How many power orbs do you have ryan?
I can make 5. I have zero.
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### Author:  [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/6 "2019-04-17T16:18:42Z")
Yeah and while they are at itā¦ Give us also something to do with the pile of soulsā¦ š¤
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### Author:  [@crazylady](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/crazylady)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/7 "2019-04-17T16:27:48Z")
@WWDiver fo sho!
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/9 "2019-04-17T17:37:28Z")
Please do not post off-topic or _ad hominem_ replies.
Thank you,
Lyya
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/10 "2019-04-17T18:09:04Z")
I canāt articulate it without writing a whole page but orbs and Zuulāgoth make me mad.
Dawnbringer didnāt care how I went about getting the souls. I could buy 1.3m souls with dollars. Or I could farm them. I could spend 30 minutes per day or 6 hours per day. I saw a clear path to Dawnbringer, I could measure my progress, and I could tell how any choice I made got me closer to it.
Zuulāgoth may as well be a 1/255 chance from VIP keys. I can work all week to help my guild reach the last tier of an event, and Iām only 10% likely (I think) to see an ascension orb. This means I can only track my progress via probability with huge error bars. It might take me a month or it might take me ten years. Nothing I can do makes it fasterā¦ unless I want to do a leaderboard run.
Thatās problematic too. Less than 5 people _per week_ get an orb of power from the leaderboard. They have to put in more effort, sometimes in one day, than I tend to even have available for gaming in a week. Itās a club I can never join, so I strongly resent itās also the ONLY way to make predictable progress towards ZG.
Smart people can ignore ZG, but then smart people donāt have any carrots to chase. Itās a mess.
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/11 "2019-04-17T18:09:54Z")
Ok, fair enough.
Why should the devs have to change the game to suit those who were too shortsighted to save their ascension orbs for when the inevitable zuul buff came down the line. Its nobodyās fault but your own that you wasted those orbs so suck it up and collect more.
Howās that @Lyya?
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/12 "2019-04-17T18:28:47Z")
Zuul is so awesome and worth it, @Tydda has two!
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/13 "2019-04-17T18:31:56Z")
Iām just glad I was smart enough to save all my orbs for when they buffed him. Now I have one while others regret wasting orbs.
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/15 "2019-04-17T19:20:45Z")
So you have never used a single ascension orb? I got my zuul by saving.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/16 "2019-04-17T19:24:05Z")
> [@Doc](#):
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> So you have never used a single ascension orb? I got my zuul by saving.
Prove it.
> **[Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com)**
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> The definitive resource for all troops and content in Gems of War.
Link your collection to the website and post a link here when youāre done.
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/17 "2019-04-17T19:24:38Z")
Prove what?
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/19 "2019-04-17T19:26:08Z")
Oh so you can accuse me of being a troll and thatās not a violation of the guidelines?
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/20 "2019-04-17T19:26:40Z")
@Lyya please remove the offending post.
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### Author:  [@Doc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doc)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/21 "2019-04-17T19:32:17Z")
Personally I find the current orb drop rate fair and satisfactory. But the nature of human behavior is that not everyone will be pleased, especially those who made the mistake of being wasteful.
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### Author:  [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/22 "2019-04-17T20:19:38Z")
Just make them into power orbs and get zull [quote=āUKresistance, post:12, topic:54234, full:trueā]
Zuul is so awesome and worth it, @Tydda has two!
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only one is worth it not two bec itās a one time cast even if you have two it still can only be used once not once per troop itās just like great maw
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/23 "2019-04-17T20:40:58Z")
Iām actually shocked I have one more orb of power than AWR.
For all I rag on him somethingās really broken if I have more stuff than he does. If I get ZG first Iām not telling him. Dude has an ego but he also has a lot more of his heart tied into this game than I do.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-orbs-excrement/54234/24 "2019-04-17T20:56:31Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#):
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> Iām actually shocked I have one more orb of power than AWR.
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> For all I rag on him somethingās really broken if I have more stuff than he does. If I get ZG first Iām not telling him. Dude has an ego but he also has a lot more of his heart tied into this game than I do.
Iām happy for all those who actually craft ZG and donāt just say they did because itās the internet.
In 90% of GoW, rewards are based on activityā¦I have all but ZuulāGoth because of activityā¦I have more resources than mostā¦ Because of the activity of my guildā¦
Chaos orbs (not power orbs) donāt care how active you are. An active player gets pretty much the same chances at an Ascension orb as a hyper active player does.
Iāve never actually tried to get #1 in the event so I realize that option is always available to players. Iām not here to complain about being unlucky.
I stopped even trying to go for the top 100 because itās crushing to invest that much time into an event and get anything other than an Ascension orb at the end of it.
The OP is a simple request. I have a lot of useless orbs. Can I make some use of them in some way? š¤·
Congratulations on being luckier than me though @Slypenslyde. Thatās what a game should decide success on. š
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