# Changes to Upcoming Epic Guild Tasks (4.7) **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [December 3, 2019, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724 "2019-12-03T04:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/102 "2019-12-06T12:03:00Z")
> [@Micio](#): > > The rewards got nerfed a TONS (tokens ofc being the first being reduced to next to nothing and tbh even writs seem, tbh idgaff about 1 of each color deed, i like way more get writs and make the deeds i want). Which rewards, the first version of Epic Tasks? Those were just a rough draft for review, it would hardly be fair to complain about something getting changed that you never received. Besides, word has it that we are actually getting more deeds/writs now than before. > [@Micio](#): > > So with the osom rework we can get now around same keys as doing LT’s and in exchange we give up any chance to get troops and we can gather lot more useless garbage we wont need and will stockpile even more. Given a choice, I’d rather take 500 gem keys and 150 event keys instead of a small chance for a random mythic. The former allows me to pull the troops I still want quite reliably, the latter tends to be a pleasant surprise I don’t have any use for. Besides, there’s a pile of other somewhat useful resources thrown in. > [@Micio](#): > > But as someone said already is hilarious, now some ppls are thanking them like they got a present or something (maybe thinking to build some statues too) when at the end of the day with all that work and rework 99% of guilds will lose the chance of ever getting troops from LT and get some useless crap instead, 0,9% (like mine prolly) will just complete all tasks every week so only gonna lose the troops chancein exchange of some (useful) stats and the superharcore 0,1% gonna lose “a few” lt’s and that is. Thanks for reminding me. @Saltypatra Thank you. This feels like a compromise the vast majority should be happy with, it addresses almost all concerns quite nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/103 "2019-12-06T12:07:11Z")
> [@Samyaza](#): > > Resource scattering is forcing people to try to complete all instead of focusing on the thing they really need. Each epic task is still themed, e.g. blue for chaos shards. Keys and traitstones were thrown in as an extra, so you get something on top of the themed resources you might no longer need. ---
**Author:** ![Micio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/micio/32/50997_2.png) [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/104 "2019-12-06T12:24:58Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Given a choice, I’d rather take 500 gem keys and 150 event keys instead of a small chance for a random mythic. The former allows me to pull the troops I still want quite reliably, the latter tends to be a pleasant surprise I don’t have any use for. Besides, there’s a pile of other somewhat useful resources thrown in. Wut? where you see 500 extra gems keys? her eon earth i dont see them, on my little pony world maybe they show up. You talk like are “extra”, maybe you shold read better Salty post, doing ALL epic tasks now we get around same number of keys of doing 31 lt’s but NO RANDOM CHANCE to get troops. “Words” come from a beta tester that seen it and no, we get Deeds (that basically ONLY guilds that will almost complete Epic task are gonna get) that there wasnt “before” but LESS writs. And yes we also get a BIG PILE of “something”, totally useless to “us” that complete EpicFail Tasks, maybe useful to new players, new players that WONT get them cuz anyway they wont have enough golds to do epic task. But yes, am gonna join you :3. ![gdrgdg-1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/7/279112e4e0ff9fd85a493429b107e742417e0238.jpeg) Just replace the last “OK.” with the above “Thank You devs!” :3. ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/105 "2019-12-06T12:56:08Z")
The increased seal cap gives access to troops at a higher level than previously. OK random LT mythics may be off limits to most but your weekly effort and higher seals means more guild chests and more troops. I am struggling now to understand why the introduction of epic tasks was necessary when the rewards have barely changed from LTS after the rework. Other than giving away 30 leg or mythic troops instead of one. ---
**Author:** ![JDog800](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jdog800/32/19397_2.png) [@JDog800](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JDog800)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/106 "2019-12-06T13:17:12Z")
I was correct all along when I said this was directly targeting the random Mythic and Legendary troops given by LTs. This is a card collection game and they took out all the chances to get new cards.I still dont see this as a win. ---
**Author:** ![Micio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/micio/32/50997_2.png) [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/107 "2019-12-06T13:33:07Z")
Maybe, still waiting for that stream on which we will know how many more seals we can gather in 4.7 but tbh my expectations seen the lately trend arent really high. Tbh think will be already a miracle if cap will go up to 2k a week. Not that i personally need lt’s either, look like i got some luck at pulling cards (got 3 of the lastest without really hurting any of my stash and without even touching gem keys one) but those that dont should be lot more pissed off about the loss of that “microslim” chance of getting a myth from it (even tho according to Salty chance to get a mythic from 31 LT’s is around 20%, not really what i call “microslim”) ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/108 "2019-12-06T13:50:26Z")
I represent the other side of the RNG lottery regarding today’s mythic drop. All keys down (several thousand) plus 85k glory for a few legendaries and nothing more. Not my day but cest la vie. I’ve had cheap mythics in the past. Swings and roundabouts. ---
**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/109 "2019-12-06T14:04:06Z")
1. I’m disappointed that we can’t get higher rarity Tokens. 2. Mixing resources makes it impossible to exclude certain Epic Tasks to save up for LTs during GW (or similar strategies). Feels like a _lot less_ choice. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/110 "2019-12-06T14:24:50Z")
I totally see where you’re coming from with the mixed-up tasks. I wish it were possible to focus-fire and get just what I want. But I also want keys (gem more than event), so I like the fact that I get some for targeting the things I want _most_. So I can’t make up my mind whether I like the reorganization or dislike it. The gain in deeds (admittedly with a large spend) is definitely a gain. The loss of tokens is definitely a loss. I wonder if it would be possible to strip out some of the rewards in the red task and get higher-rarity tokens back. ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/111 "2019-12-06T14:49:56Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > - **900 Glory** > - **240 Glory Keys** > - **102 Gem Keys** > - **30 Event Keys** > - 12 Runic Straitstones > - 42 Arcane Traitstones > - **167 Writs (1.67 Deeds worth)** > - **6 Deeds (one of each color)** > - 281 Chaos Shards > - 36 Colored Pet Food > - 51 White Pet Food > - 10 Ultra-Rare Ingots > - 13 Epic Ingots > - 48 Jewels (8 of each color) > - 6 Tokens of Gaard > - 3 Tokens of Yasmine As an end-game player, this is what the new rewards look like to me. And seriously, once again, who actually uses those ingots? I am really curious, because when I started playing, I was using my first Legendary and Class mythic weapon in like a week. The same was true when my wife started playing. ---
**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/112 "2019-12-06T15:03:08Z")
For the completionist, Epic Ingots were very valuable for a time. But that time ended with the introduction of Mecha Gnome. My own experience, with the goal of maxing every weapon (except Doomed) for Kingdom stars (and completion), was that I got plenty of Legendary and Mythic Ingots from farming Warrens for about 6 months, but I was having to convert Ultra-Rares to Epics (_not_ Commons to Rares, once I did the maths and realised the crazy Soul cost). I was 40 Epic Ingots short of completion when Mecha Gnome came out, and was done within a week of that. I think that’s a great example of how a small change to an economy can make a difficult goal super-easy. Like when Diablo III removed half the Gem types and all the hours I’d spent trying for a Star Gem achievement were wiped out in a moment. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/113 "2019-12-06T15:15:22Z")
> [@igniteice](#): > > As an end-game player, this is what the new rewards look like to me. Pretty much this, yeah. There’s not a lot there. ---
**Author:** ![JDog800](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jdog800/32/19397_2.png) [@JDog800](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JDog800)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/114 "2019-12-06T15:25:30Z")
Keep polishing this turd its shinning bright now. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/115 "2019-12-06T17:26:08Z")
Why take away the nysha token? That was one of the few good things from the new task set. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/116 "2019-12-06T17:32:02Z")
Spreading out the keys among different task sets makes it less likely for people to get them now. That was another thing that could’ve benefited the players in less active guilds. It’s nice that the devs are trying to make changes to appeal to the players, this just seems to be going about it in the wrong way. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/117 "2019-12-06T17:34:14Z")
I guess there’s more keys now? Not sure what the rewards were before. So I guess it kinda makes sense? I don’t know. Anyway, please reconsider giving the nysha tokens. ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/118 "2019-12-06T18:52:21Z")
Is it just me, or has the entrance cost of the Epic Tasks been changed, too? Wasn’t it 10k gold before? Now it’s **15 times higher**? Am I misreading something? Were the upper bands’ costs reduced or something to compensate? Also—very sad at the loss of high-rarity tokens. And at the spread-out style of the reward distribution that makes targeting specific things you want without losing others _you also want_ nearly impossible. Before, we could get what we wanted by ignoring the junk. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/120 "2019-12-06T19:07:32Z")
> [@Magnusimus](#): > > Wasn’t it 10k gold before? Now it’s **15 times higher**? The total for completing one epic task was 5,220,000 before. Now, the total for completing one epic task is 5,250,000. ---
**Author:** ![bobbydvt247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bobbydvt247](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bobbydvt247)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/121 "2019-12-06T19:08:28Z")
![Screenshot_20191206-140610_Sheets](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/9/59084267bcb4bfca88d08f51d3ddf39e0887c6ac.jpeg) total resource comparison with old tasks plus LTs and new epic tasks. This does not include the seal increase which is probably between 25-50 seal keys depending on what the increase is to. Not sure if there was confirmation on that number. The biggest gripe people have here is to get these resources you have to reach 46.26 million as they are scattered among the tiers. To that I would say, yeah, that’s the whole point. It wasnt meant to put back LTs, it was meant to make it a 1 to 1 value for your gold at completion. In fact I would argue the addition of deeds, writs, pet food far outweighs the lose of glory in that chart. This was a solid compromise in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724/122 "2019-12-06T19:44:14Z")
I know totals have changed slightly, but I mean the actual tier costs of the statues—the progression of access/cost. Wasn’t it 10k gold for the first tier before? And now it’s 150k? Overall, the resources bought won’t change **IF** a guild can buy them all. **BUT** if the initial tiers are more expensive, then it will be even harder to unlock a few here and there to get some keys. You know, for the guilds that could have bought half of each new Epic Task rather than just choosing two to fully unlock. I’m having trouble explaining myself—sorry if I’m unclear. Attempt to illustrate: 150k gold at the old Epic Tasks would have bought the first of each statue (60k gold) and then _also_ the second for almost 5 of them (100k). Now that same 150k gold only unlocks one reward? Or am I just misunderstanding? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-upcoming-epic-guild-tasks-4-7/59724.md?page=7)