# Changes to Cedric's Rewards **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090 "2024-01-22T05:13:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/62 "2024-03-06T04:47:31Z")
On another note, Darkborne’s comment here (reply #4) has a ridiculous amount of support ( **47 likes** as of 6 March). I think that’s worth making a note of! ![Screenshot_2024-03-06-15-43-58-917-edit_com.brave.browser](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/0/40b891bce39320b222fbcfa36fb9810ec864a4bc.jpeg) > [@Darkborne](#): > > The gnomes, tarot cards, and Cedric need to be treated like guardian troops from guild chests. […] ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/63 "2024-03-06T04:52:54Z")
I’ve been keeping track of this as well. It’s a dream of mine and many others that has some nice, supportive data.🕶 Maybe we can get someone to pass this onto the dev team for this much needed feature? @Kafka @Jeto @Bramble or anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/64 "2024-03-06T05:14:00Z")
It was already passed on quite a long time ago and it’s re-raised semi-regularly so it doesn’t get buried on the list of feedback. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/65 "2024-03-06T10:54:38Z")
Yeah just like the obnoxious feedbacks about ‘bring back old on-exit battle screen with actual data inside it’, yeyeye ---
**Author:** ![Raistlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/raistlin/32/61294_2.png) [@Raistlin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raistlin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/66 "2024-03-06T14:16:55Z")
And I assume that it “semi-regularly” gets blown off as not important as evidenced by releasing a new set of dragons under the same stupid pure rng mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/67 "2024-03-06T15:05:54Z")
> [@Raistlin](#): > > And I assume that it “semi-regularly” gets blown off as not important as evidenced by releasing a new set of dragons under the same stupid pure rng mechanic. Maybe the feedback just ends up getting sent to the wrong place? Like to an old Salty account that nobody ever looks at any longer? Has there ever been any response at all from the feedback channel the past years? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![ZuulGoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c4cdca/32.png) [@ZuulGoth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZuulGoth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/68 "2024-03-08T20:39:34Z")
Ya se consigue la reina de bastos ? Si o no ? ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/69 "2024-03-08T20:56:50Z")
> [@7.4 Update: Pillars of Light](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-4-update-pillars-of-light/83472/9): > > Hey folks! > > I’m making a correction to the patch notes: > > Valhawk will be available from The Vault at Tuesday daily reset - not Monday. > We have a public holiday here on Monday so we want to make sure we are releasing the new Troop into collections on the day the team is available. > > Queen of Wands will also be released to Cedric’s reward table in the Vault on Tuesday daily reset. Next Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 7:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/70 "2024-03-10T07:47:43Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > The chance of getting any Tarot card is roughly equal to the chance of getting any other Tarot Card with a small bonus for the latest one released into the pool. The thought just crawled through my mind, that for players, who are trying to catch up (a special hi to new accounts, if those still exist), this actually means, that the risk to get a duplicate is increased. Your attempts to make things better on one end of the playerbase makes them worse for others. Those gambling mechanics are a horrible approach. And about > [@Kafka](#): > > [The suggestion to limit vault troops to mythic +4] was already passed on quite a long time ago and it’s re-raised semi-regularly so it doesn’t get buried on the list of feedback. How many years would that have been by now? And do you honestly believe, it is not implemented for all that time, because it may have been “buried” under other ideas? If you are actually interested in passing on this suggestion, and not just parotting to make us shut up about it, and you are working within hearing distance of development, as you claim (I have strong doubts about both), then you should have ways to remind them, that are more effective than an easily deleted note. ---
**Author:** ![redmist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redmist/32/59905_2.png) [@redmist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/redmist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/71 "2024-03-10T11:57:47Z")
Is it not more likely that the answer to the suggestion was “No.”? As long as there is difficulty in obtaining a troop then the paid approach will be much more appealing to those can (and want to) afford it. As each new tarot troop dilutes the pool it is more likely that late-game players interested in keeping their collection up-to-date will buy the pass. IP2 have an interest in maintaining a base of players willing to fund the game. F2P’ers also rely on those funds indirectly. But if you’re F2P, and not paying, then you get what you are given. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/72 "2024-03-10T14:34:16Z")
> [@redmist](#): > > Is it not more likely that the answer to the suggestion was “No.”? Very likely, yes. But this is not what our professional fairytale teller and sugarcoater claims. And who are we, to doubt someone, who works “within a few meters” from development. I get the argument, that there needs to be some pressure to pay money into the game. However I would say, getting a headstart with the troop plus a load of other (quite notable) rewards is more than enough to bring those who are eager to spend on board. Improvements on the vault system would not mean a significant devaluation of the campaign pass (just as the soulforge does not harm kingdom passes). However, as mentioned in the first part, endgamers, who already own all troops except for the latest one, are not the only group to keep in mind. There are no monetary options to directly get troops from previous campaigns. Keeping those behind the rigged roulette wheel only frustrates players, who would still need them. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/73 "2024-03-10T14:58:34Z")
> [@redmist](#): > > As long as there is difficulty in obtaining a troop then the paid approach will be much more appealing to those can (and want to) afford it. As each new tarot troop dilutes the pool it is more likely that late-game players interested in keeping their collection up-to-date will buy the pass. The draw to the Campaign Passes aren’t the Tarot cards. They just happen to be there. Take out some of the other rewards like Books and the Mythic troop and see how many people buy the pass just for the Tarot card. ---
**Author:** ![ANGI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@ANGI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ANGI)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/74 "2024-03-11T12:53:05Z")
congrats @Jerry_the_skunk my opinion since release ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/75 "2024-03-13T04:29:42Z")
Confirming queen of wands and valhawk both in vault - I got one of each today. ---
**Author:** ![Campo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Campo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Campo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/76 "2026-06-02T11:17:53Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > For the first issue, we have updated our system to automatically add Tarot Cards (and Gnomes) into the Vault. This is similar to how we automate other areas of the game (like Chests). When we no longer have to do things like this manually, they’re much more reliable. Has this change from 2024 been lost from the game? > [@Kafka](#): > > The chance of getting any Tarot card is roughly equal to the chance of getting any other Tarot Card with a small bonus for the latest one released into the pool. And what about this feature? does it still exist? I’ve used over 700 vault keys and still to get the Queen of Runes. I know RNG sucks but this is getting ridiculous! ---
**Author:** ![Raistlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/raistlin/32/61294_2.png) [@Raistlin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raistlin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/77 "2026-06-02T11:47:18Z")
The only “feature” is that you get a Cedric every 5 keys and they refuse to address his drop rate. I have spent thousands trying to get Ace of Swords. I still don’t have it, but I have hundreds more Cedrics. ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/78 "2026-06-02T13:49:37Z")
Cedrics drop rate and other useless stuff in epic vault keys are beyond a joke. I have 3k Cedrics. Have to say I was excited when I saw this thread at first, thought something might have been getting done. Silly me 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/79 "2026-06-02T13:59:17Z")
I could have gotten a million likes, and they still would have done nothing. Feature requests are pretty meaningless and our words are dust in the wind. The forums are basically just here so that we can beta test and submit bugs and problems. So pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Prisane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@Prisane](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Prisane)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/80 "2026-06-07T20:44:15Z")
There is a post here from 2024 that The Devil is impossible to get. I have had 3 of The Devil for over two years, and you need 5 to make the weapon Trick and Treat. Every vault weekend I get and play between 70-80 vault/epic vault keys. Most of my other Tarot cards are already at Mythic level. Is The Devil no longer in the loot table at all, or what is happening here? ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/81 "2026-06-07T23:31:18Z")
The Devil is in the loot table for everyone. The problem with Switch not being able to get it has been resolved. But my suggestion still stands–every time we get Cedric Sparklesack (or any other troop card from vault keys once we have 4 copies of them) is a missed opportunity to get a reward that is actually meaningful. With 39 Tarot cards at the time of this posting, we need more and more vault keys to get the missing tarot card or other rewards that would help us. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090.md?page=5)