# Changes in Guild wars? **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Created:** [July 31, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-in-guild-wars/28153 "2017-07-31T20:03:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 20
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-in-guild-wars/28153/20 "2017-07-31T22:54:59Z")
> [@Zelith](#): > > Your premise is flawed. > [@Lots of Previews - Guild Wars, Crafting, Dungeons, and more!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/1): > > in fact I think almost every single KPI about the game was doing better than pre-guild wars. Look, I’ve never been a fan of GW and I’ve said as much many times in the forums. I did my daily battles out of a sense of obligation, sometimes enjoying them and oftentimes not. When Sirrian was saying that the KPI’s of the game were doing better than pre-guild wars, he’s talking primarily about getting more players to play more often and for longer, and I could see it having that effect on me and on others. Personally, I’ve enjoyed the game more in the last two weeks than I did in the weeks before that, but I played less. I can see the same effect on my guilds total seals count, which dropped from somewhere between 30 and 35 k for the last two weeks of GW to around 20 to 25 k in the last two weeks. You seem to be assuming that everyone wants to strictly maximize/optimize their GW score. I don’t. I’m more than content to maximize my _win/loss record_ while generally trying to do well in other respects. Whatever changes they make to GW, I hope it doesn’t result in me feeling like my hands are more tied than they were before. I think encouraging a sense of freedom in how to approach these battles is what they were going for with all this, and I’m going to embrace it. --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-in-guild-wars/28153)._