# Change Epic Vault Opponents
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [July 17, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001 "2021-07-17T12:13:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@blindnighto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blindnighto)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/1 "2021-07-17T12:13:21Z")
With the new influx of normal and epic vault keys due to GAP, it’s become even more obvious how terrible the rewards are from epic vault. Here’s my petition:
- Instead of the current 2x Treasure Gnome, Daemon Gnome and King Cedric, a player fights 4x Cedric, or even 3x Cedric and one King Cedric
Reasoning: King Cedric’s x4 drop is the only “epic” part of the epic vault, and usually not particularly great. Having 3x Cedric + King Cedric would yield more interesting rewards, and make vault-exclusive troops slightly more attainable. Even with the new influx of epic vault keys, they are still rare and only really obtainable GAPs during vault weekend, or extreme grinding.
PS: There will always be people who p(l)ay too much and have absurd stashes.
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### Author:  [@rbchaffe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/rbchaffe)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/2 "2021-07-17T12:43:32Z")
Perhaps one of them could be a Gnome that only shows up in the epic vault and drops deeds, with a slight chance of an imperial deed?
(I hesitate to suggest a new “legendary vault”. Of course, they would probably program it to require a legendary key that a player would obtain only once a year. So, never mind.)
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### Author:  [@CobraMJD](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CobraMJD)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/3 "2021-07-17T13:59:27Z")
I got 2 minor yellow traitstone on my last Epic Vault, what a joke, not epic at all.
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### Author:  [@HagureShinma](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HagureShinma)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/4 "2021-07-17T14:25:06Z")
Yes please, using my first epic vault key was… highly disappointing. And the following ones weren’t great at all. 😖
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/5 "2021-07-17T14:33:05Z")
I was not thrilled to discover there’s always a chaos shard gnome, no.
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### Author:  [@Tabu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tabu)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/6 "2021-07-17T15:34:28Z")
What we need in there is a gnome that drops doomed forge scrolls.
The 11 week rationing system we have now is broken.
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### Author:  [@Adam](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Adam)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/7 "2021-07-17T16:25:54Z")
This is the worst. I don’t see why this is even possible with epic vault keys, at worst it should be arcanes.
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### Author:  [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/8 "2021-07-17T16:38:24Z")
Also there should be increased chances of getting a Tarot Card from an Epic Key 👍
(And not from 0.1% to 0.2%!!)
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### Author:  [@G0blin0verL0rd7](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/G0blin0verL0rd7)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2022, 6:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/change-epic-vault-opponents/71001/9 "2022-02-03T06:31:07Z")
I was thinking replacing one of the Treasure Gnomes with a Cursed Gnome, that way people won’t have to break down and use Gems to fully upgrade their Soulforge.