# Cedric medal… are you crazy? **URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cedric-medal-are-you-crazy/58639 **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback **Created:** [October 18, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cedric-medal-are-you-crazy/58639 "2019-10-18T16:59:30Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 75
### Author: ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon) #### Post date: [October 21, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cedric-medal-are-you-crazy/58639/75 "2019-10-21T22:24:56Z")
While this whole ordeal is a head-scratcher, I wouldn’t overreact the other way and say the nerf makes Cedric medals useless either. Per the math (which Mithran provides [here](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-forced-update-incoming-and-explore-difficulty-fix/58709/25)), you’re looking at a 27% chance first-turn chance to break out of any non-stun status with 3 medals. That becomes about 52% cumulatively on the second turn (1-.73\*.73\*.9, please correct me if I’m wrong), vs 10% chance to cleanse naturally without any medals. That’s valuable. Where it gets interesting, is how much this affects status-dependent troops. Pre-Cedric nerf, they were all set for quite the drop. With the nerfed Cedrics in effect, can they be used to help offense teams kill a team before the enhanced cleanse chance can be a factor? Interesting times ahead. --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cedric-medal-are-you-crazy/58639)._