# Case Study - Serious casual player **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 20, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673 "2016-09-20T07:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/21 "2016-10-26T12:14:24Z")
Considering the discussion about Valkyrie and soul generators, next week I will keep track of my souls (and not spend them), so we can compare with the 21K I got about a month ago. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/22 "2016-10-26T21:58:33Z")
I look forward to your research. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/23 "2016-10-31T08:26:00Z")
As before, I will sum and reformat the data later on. Start of the week: 1675 souls Tribute: 199 + 146 +79 Guild task: 1200 + 2600 Pvp tier 5 in 20 matches 7945 souls now Guild task: 900 8853 at reset of day 1 Tribute: 31 + 103 Pvp done, tier 1 in 12 extra matches, now 10444 souls 10444 still at reset of day 2 Tribute: 292 Guild tasks: 1000 11736 at reset of day 3 Tribute: 61 + 98 11895 at reset of day 4 Tribute: 196 After spending supply of keys: 12670 Tribute: 71 ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/24 "2016-11-01T18:35:02Z")
I was a serious casual player before the Guild update. I played a lot but wasn’t min/maxing at all. When the guild update hit, I got quite a bit more focused and then the guild followed suit. We started recruiting heavier and within a few weeks we’ve raised 10 spots (and counting) and we’re completing tasks and seals at double the rate we were before. The guild update was a game changer for me. I’m not playing any more or less but I’m paying a lot more attention to how I use my resources and how I build my teams. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/25 "2016-11-01T19:21:44Z")
I had fun fighting your defense yesterday, @htismaqe. My EK/Mab/Valk/Famine (all fully traited) vs your Templar/Paladin/Inquisitor/Mercy. First you get a lucky charge on your paladin and one shot my Valk, then your Inq nearly kills my EK who dies soon after due to a skull match. I still manage to win! ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/26 "2016-11-01T19:26:26Z")
That team is sneakily good. Despite being pretty lackluster on paper, it wins at about 30% on defends and it doesn’t contain Manticore, Khorvash, Bone Dragon, or Gorgotha. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673/27 "2016-11-07T11:59:02Z")
I’m abandoning this round of data gathering. Due to having recently acquired The Witcher 3, I find I don’t play as much Gems of War, making comparison very difficult. I might track it in a later week but I don’t foresee this pattern changing for the coming weeks (I will basically have to finish The Withcer;)), so not for now. I did manage to finish PvP so we can compare that. In my original week, I gathered 3875 souls in 35 matches, which is about 110,7 souls per match. This round I gathered 3695 souls in 32 matches, which is about 115,5 souls per match. My earlier assumption that PvP won’t lose soul incoming as I need to cast Valkyrie often enough (for the new limit) to win anyways, is proven. Tributes are difficult to compare as I have been growing my kingdom levels and power levels anyways. We’re mostly missing the Explore numbers. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/case-study-serious-casual-player/12673.md?page=1)