# Can't call out a guild that doesn't exist anymore **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [October 20, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651 "2020-10-20T13:49:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/21 "2020-10-21T22:37:51Z")
The issue with facing an empty guild was that there was no one to fight against, so you couldn’t earn any points. From Vivi’s SS (Tyrant) It looks like they’ve fixed this by keeping the defence of maybe the last person to leave/the person who disbanded the guild(?), for all 5 battles. Definitely better than not having anyone to battle (and thus scoring 0 points), no worse than (i.e. the same as) fighting a 1-person guild ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ Would be interested to hear the answer to this as well: > [@Evildave](#): > > Hi Vivi, did you face a regular defense or something out of the ordinary? > Thanks @Vivi_Cat 🙏 ---
**Author:** ![Vivi\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vivi\_Cat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vivi_Cat)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/22 "2020-10-22T09:32:34Z")
@Evildave It’s a normal team. One of their guild member actually just starts a new topic asking for help, claiming someone stole their guild. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/3/b38bb0f55764b71f87e001296ca09343c4a8e0ee.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/23 "2020-10-22T09:50:12Z")
> [@Vivi\_Cat](#): > > claiming someone stole their guild. IMO, claming that somebody hacked their GM account and disbanded the guild as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![junette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/junette/32/43709_2.png) [@junette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/junette)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/24 "2020-10-22T13:42:13Z")
> [@Lost your Guild](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lost-your-guild/66680): > > Hello, We had a terrible situation in our guild we are playing in for long time. Somehow someone stolen our GM account and just kick out all of us out. Now the guild is empty and open with no players in it. Please can u help us all to come back in it? Guild name is NarkomaniBLR. U can check we were playing in it for long time. Hoping to ur cooperation. Name: Narkomani BLR ID code: gbS0oxvpDZ Gaming Platform: PC/Mobile LeagueData Rank: 999,999 Trophies: 3,608,784 Level: 3,169 WeeklyGoldRe… ---
**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/25 "2020-10-22T16:25:22Z")
Someone hacking the GM account and disbanding it really is the most likely cause for a situation like that. GM accounts are really the single point of failure in a guild. Power Gems went through quite a lot just from a GM that was inactive. It took 1.5 months to get control back for the guild. My heart definitely goes out to NarkomaniBLR. I hope they end up with a positive resolution eventually. Patience and hope can sometimes persevere. ---
**Author:** ![Tabu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tabu/32/63708_2.png) [@Tabu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tabu)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651/26 "2020-10-22T17:53:49Z")
The game I played before this one. This happened. Turned out the person who “hacked” the gm was someone who used to remote in with teamviewer and “coach” them not play btw, their version of gws. Edit: I’m not saying thats what happened. It was just something that happened and this reminded me of it. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cant-call-out-a-guild-that-doesnt-exist-anymore/66651.md?page=1)