# Can we do something about Cedric drops? **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [January 11, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905 "2025-01-11T02:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/1 "2025-01-11T02:05:10Z")
I’m dreaming of a world where I don’t get 7 new Cedrics from 10 vault keys. Devs, can we make that happen? I mean it’s ridiculous. If it’s not possible to remove him from the drop table, for people who have 4 x mythic Cedric, because of some old spaghetti code 🙄, how about a soulforge recipe to craft vault keys from Cedrics. Something? ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/2 "2025-01-11T02:06:47Z")
Make that 8 from 11 keys. You couldn’t make this ish up! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![becauseican646](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@becauseican646](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/becauseican646)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/3 "2025-01-11T02:18:07Z")
Cedric is absolutely a problem but it’s not the only one, vault keys are getting too diluted in general with so many tarot cards being added to the game. Change need to be made ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/4 "2025-01-11T02:26:51Z")
That’s definitely true, also! But I’d settle for just never seeing another Cedric drop. How about a new pass! 10 weeks of no Cedric. /sarcasm. 😭 ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/5 "2025-01-11T03:07:01Z")
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**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/6 "2025-01-11T03:34:09Z")
What’s the drop rate of Cedric again? (I’ve actually logged screenshots for EVERY vault battle I’ve run for over a year, I’ve just . . . not tabulated the data from it) ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/7 "2025-01-11T12:51:15Z")
> [@Stratelier](#): > > What’s the drop rate of Cedric again? AFAIK, the drop rates of anything in the gnome vault, have never been made public. That’s a problem in itself. I personally let that go, since I would never buy a vault key. But, I’d venture his drop rate is fairly high. In general, that isn’t too bad. Handy troop to have, especially for newer players. However, after drawing the 3000th Cedric, one finds oneself tacking a picture of Cedric on the old dartboard. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/8 "2025-01-11T12:52:09Z")
I believe it’s about 75% or 65% It’s ridiculously stupid, spending time to get these keys during vault event and then you get this. I wish they spend their time on fixing things that matter in this game before adding new things. The list is listed several times on things that need fixing and work on. Unfortunately it is been ignored ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hi_bob/32/95464_2.png) [@Hi\_Bob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hi_Bob)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/9 "2025-01-11T20:05:01Z")
Believe it or not, the Cedric drop rate is _only_ ~10%. That’s based on my personal tracking last year of 1,000+ vault keys. But, yeah, I agree, it feels like it’s much greater. And frankly, 10% is far too high. That and minor traitstones are the gnomes’ way of giving us the …….”you’re Number 1” sign. ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/10 "2025-01-11T22:20:52Z")
I have over 2600 cedrics just sitting there, i agree with your post its ridiculous. All the troops ahould be taken out really and be put into chests. The rewards have been heavily diluted ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/11 "2025-01-11T23:28:11Z")
> [@Hi\_Bob](#): > > But, yeah, I agree, it feels like it’s much greater. And frankly, 10% is far too high. In 15 keys in a row I ended up getting 11 Cedrics. Random likes to random, but it was starting to feel like something was buggy. Anyway… curious where the drop rates are listed? ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hi_bob/32/95464_2.png) [@Hi\_Bob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hi_Bob)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/12 "2025-01-11T23:53:42Z")
To my knowledge the vault chest drop rates aren’t listed anywhere. I collected data on Cedric drops, but even that is now somewhat outdated because the devs have revised the Tarot card rate. Maybe we should line up our thousands of Cedric troops and have them lay siege to the dev’s office building until a revision is made? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/13 "2025-01-12T00:34:30Z")
the fun thing is that at one point, they decided to buff the drop rate to Cedric to what it is now. ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/14 "2025-01-12T01:51:53Z")
> [@Hi\_Bob](#): > > To my knowledge the vault chest drop rates aren’t listed anywhere. I collected data on Cedric drops, but even that is now somewhat outdated because the devs have revised the Tarot card rate. Ah. Ok. That was my understanding, also. The drop rates are not published. 😑 > [@Hi\_Bob](#): > > Maybe we should line up our thousands of Cedric troops and have them lay siege to the dev’s office building until a revision is made? Haha! I actually regret all the Cedrics I’ve disenchanted over the years. I’d love to know my total, now! ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/15 "2025-01-12T19:05:39Z")
1436 Cedrics here. Would also be interesting to see how many times this has been requested over the years. I know I’ve commented on this more than once in the past. I don’t think they want to improve it. The Tarot cards seem like a blatant, purposeful pool expansion as all but one or two are completely useless. ---
**Author:** ![iTouchedAnu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d26b3c/32.png) [@iTouchedAnu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/iTouchedAnu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/16 "2025-01-13T09:39:07Z")
I’d like to see someone address the fact that an Epic vault key Cedric can drop EXACTLY the same as a regular one if you luck out and get a troop , despite the description saying it’s supposed to be x3 rewards ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 11:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/17 "2025-01-13T11:54:33Z")
It’s in the official documentation. "In an Epic Vault you will fight against King Cedric Sparklesack - the Boss version of Cedric. Defeating Cedric in an Epic Vault battle will make Cedric drop 4x more Rewards than in a normal Vault battle. **NOTE:** The 4x Cedric loot bonus only applies to currencies such as Gold, Souls, Gems etc. the 4x bonus does NOT apply to Troop cards or Orbs." > **[The Vault and Vault Events](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001122356-The-Vault-and-Vault-Events)** > > Kill gnomes and win the battle to increase your chances of earning a Vault Key. Use Vault keys to open the Gnome Vault and earn lots of rewards. > Contents: > > Earning Vault Keys > Vault Events > > Vault ba... ---
**Author:** ![iTouchedAnu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d26b3c/32.png) [@iTouchedAnu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/iTouchedAnu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/18 "2025-01-13T22:04:51Z")
I stand corrected, that’s been amended at some point (looks like a month ago). Wasn’t expecting them to actually update those pages to be fair. Still means that an Epic key version of Cedric can drop the exact same as a regular one. Which is…not epic. Cause nothing says Epic like STILL getting 2 minor trait stones and a copy of Cedric (plus some purple delve shard from the demon gnome) ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/19 "2025-01-13T22:39:35Z")
> [@iTouchedAnu](#): > > Still means that an Epic key version of Cedric can drop the exact same as a regular one. Which is…not epic. Cause nothing says Epic like STILL getting 2 minor trait stones and a copy of Cedric (plus some purple delve shard from the demon gnome) Honestly, I have yet to ever get anything “epic” from an epic vault. Then again, I’m not known for my good luck with rngs. 🙄 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Darklord1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea5d25/32.png) [@Darklord1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darklord1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-we-do-something-about-cedric-drops/86905/20 "2025-01-14T06:14:54Z")
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