# Can the devs please play their game **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [October 15, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600 "2017-10-15T10:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/61 "2017-10-16T16:50:33Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > I hope I misunderstood what was said As do i, however its doubtful… I gotta go… This is ridiculous now… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/62 "2017-10-16T16:51:17Z")
Sylvanimora isn’t affected because her trait only effectively _can_ hit once. But yes, all others are affected. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/63 "2017-10-16T16:51:28Z")
I see Lyya is writing something, lets wait a little. ---
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/64 "2017-10-16T16:51:59Z")
Kraken will still be far from rubbish as the change doesn’t address the realm issue with that troop combination. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/65 "2017-10-16T16:52:08Z")
@Lyya can u plz confirm that the beta has these changes? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/66 "2017-10-16T16:52:16Z")
I don’t have any special insight into what’s coming up, if it’s not in the data files. The change in question is a engine mechanics change, which only IP2 can give info on. Sorry to disappoint ☹ Edit: Oh, the beta. Hm, I’m not sure it’s available there – can check. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/67 "2017-10-16T16:53:44Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Sylvanimora isn’t affected because her trait only effectively can hit once. But yes, all others are affected I understand that but still… Mab ek kraken all getting nerfed to death for no reason… I am sorry if that upsets me but it is no surprise… People complain that the game is to hard and the devs respond by killing the troops… Maybe i am stupid but i dont get it ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/68 "2017-10-16T16:55:40Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Maybe i am stupid but i dont get it You are not stupid. @Lyya so this change is it 100% sure it will arrive or do the devs still have time to take a fast corner? Also I wondering why didnt they change Krakens 3rd trait only? Why do so many troops have to be knocked out at the same time because of one troop? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/69 "2017-10-16T16:56:07Z")
> [@Gilgamesh](#): > > Kraken will still be far from rubbish as the change doesn’t address the realm issue with that troop combination Sure it does… It means regardless of how many 4 or 5 matches i get with troll it will only do 6 damage if i have 2 krakens… So yeah, as i said rip kraken, you have been sent to the trash pile ---
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/70 "2017-10-16T16:56:33Z")
OK if you say so ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/71 "2017-10-16T16:57:39Z")
I wonder what the next meta will be that everyone complains about until it gets nerfed… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/72 "2017-10-16T16:58:35Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > @Lyya so this change is it 100% sure it will arrive or do the devs still have time to take a fast corner? I can’t tell you, but in the past, announced changes have almost always arrived without further modification. In this instance it can be interpreted as a bugfix, as a mass of gems could be interpreted as a single “4 or 5 match.” After all, an L-shape or T-shape is a single match, so why would a larger generalization of the same thing be anything but? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/73 "2017-10-16T16:59:53Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > After all, an L-shape or T-shape is a single match, so why would a larger generalization of the same thing be anything but That makes sense but why then do 2 unconnected match 4s only count as one? That makes no sense to me ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/74 "2017-10-16T17:00:22Z")
I agree with you on this – however, interpreting two blobs as two matches does lead to another problem, namely that “accidentally” connecting those blobs via a bridge would _reduce_ the number of triggers as two blobs become one. Perhaps they are trying to account for that scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/75 "2017-10-16T17:01:49Z")
Lyya thank you for the clarifications. I will just wait patently and see what happens next, I guess. These changes barely affect any of the troops I use to invade with, but sadly for GW my troops as Kraken and Mab will be affected for purple GW days. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/76 "2017-10-16T17:03:07Z")
Well… I for one am not happy about this at all ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/77 "2017-10-16T17:05:46Z")
The sad part is that it looks for me that the changes is already confirmed. Its no way back? ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/78 "2017-10-16T17:06:49Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > People complain that the game is to hard and the devs respond by killing the troops… Just to be clear I never complained about the game being hard or Krakens trait I complained about variety because I was sick of seeing Troll/Kraken/Mab on 9 out 10 of my 3 trophies. I’m not really a fan of the change either I don’t mind that team I just don’t want to fight it 100 times a week. ---
**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/79 "2017-10-16T17:07:44Z")
Before we jump to any conclusions let’s see what the actual changes are. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/80 "2017-10-16T17:08:42Z")
Thats cool… And i wasn’t referring to anyone specifically, i was referencing the many “nerf kraken” or “need help with kraken” threads that have been polluting the boards for some time now [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600.md?page=5)