# Can the devs please play their game **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [October 15, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600 "2017-10-15T10:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/41 "2017-10-16T12:09:09Z")
Yeah that team wasn’t my problem lack of variety was and nerfing Kraken is only a short term fix. ---
**Author:** ![AngryMidget](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angrymidget/32/10478_2.png) [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/42 "2017-10-16T12:18:21Z")
Seems to be going down the same route they did with other troops such as EK. Everyone shouted out for a nerf and they changed the one thing that wasn’t even a problem to begin with. (Not saying I want EK to be changed). Same for Wisp. The problem wasn’t surging on 4 matches, but that was the fix somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/43 "2017-10-16T12:33:40Z")
ive got mixed feelings, ill be happy with the change if at least some of the most hurt troops will be buffed (like jotnar) to compensate the mechanic change ---
**Author:** ![Strawnyy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/strawnyy/32/30688_2.png) [@Strawnyy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strawnyy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/44 "2017-10-16T12:48:06Z")
Could take away the link in wisps and up mana cost, can take trolls out of the game their use more then any other mana generator now since they reworked them, As other gem spawning troops miss like crazy because the code breaker. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/45 "2017-10-16T12:53:29Z")
Although I’m happy that the bug in gem clusters/blob calculations will finally be addressed, I hope that the dev team plans to revisit and rebalance some troops that rely on 4/5 match traits to be the least bit viable. ---
**Author:** ![U4rix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eada6e/32.png) [@U4rix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/U4rix)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/46 "2017-10-16T13:10:22Z")
Why is there no points system for using troops over and over in PVP. 50 times same team/Troops usage gets you same points and bonuses 51 to 75 times get you 20% less outcome points,gold,trophies… 75t to 100 times 60 % 100 + No points. Numbers are only suggestions !! Wont this make people switch their meta teams around to actually have fun and try different Builds/Teams Comps. As for Defense teams : Situation above would help a bit. Also, If your team is used 20 times in Defense it should be removed from the Offered Team Pool Automatically. Or Is it more simple to just Nerf all the troops till game is no more fun… Please don’t Bash, We are Only Gems ! ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/47 "2017-10-16T15:29:38Z")
Where did you see that blob calculations would be addressed? I must have skipped over that when I skimmed the thread earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/48 "2017-10-16T15:58:24Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > I was just having a bit of fun at the poor Alchemist’s expense, but rest assured we ARE playing the game! > > 1. I think the GW defense bonus is going to help a lot with variety when it comes out. We’ll keep a close on that, of course, and if it doesn’t, it’s super easy for us to adjust the bonus and make it more worthwhile. > > 2. In 3.2, there is a change to the way Kraken’s trait resolves. IT resolves ONCE for each boardful of gems… which takes the edge off that team in the screenshot a little. I played around 50-ish games against various L1000+ Troll/Kraken teams last week in 3.2, and while you DO still have to pay attention, and try to keep green off the board, they feel considerably more balanced to me. > [@Alpheon](#): > > It is for all match-type traits. Match 3 (i.e Krystanax), along with other Match 4/5 traits (i.e Mab, Kraken, etc.) will only resolve once per board. When gems start cascading, the traits will activate again. This seems to be their fix for the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/49 "2017-10-16T16:10:31Z")
Yeah, that’s not addressing blob calculations, as Mithran pointed out above. Until/unless they also change how mana is resolved from blobs, they haven’t fixed the underlying problem: that the code that determines how blobs resolve into sets of gems gives **seriously** crazy results sometimes. The fact that traits can only fire once off of many simultaneous matches will prevent Kraken and Mab from insta-freezing or OHKOing a team on a lucky troll cast, but such a cast probably still ends up with one or more full Krakens. (To be clear, I am glad the issue is being addressed. But I think we’d be seeing a different solution if the devs had more hours in the day to throw at the blob-resolution code.) Edit: didn’t the code at one point resolve blobs as a 5-match with one bonus mana for each additional gem involved? Would that be a reasonable revert, instead of the proposed change? That way clever casts of gem converters (or lucky gem spawns) that create multiple non-contiguous 4+ matches keep their efficacy, but we no longer have Kraken firing off at least nine times from a blob. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/50 "2017-10-16T16:17:14Z")
I agree that it isn’t a complete solution. It surely isn’t what I would have coded. I just merely stated that it is the “solution” they have picked. ---
**Author:** ![YankeePhoneGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yankeephoneguy/32/19398_2.png) [@YankeePhoneGuy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/YankeePhoneGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/51 "2017-10-16T16:33:24Z")
So if you gain something like barrier for each 4/5 then you will only get one? Isn’t that going to be bad or am I misunderstanding the concept? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/52 "2017-10-16T16:37:07Z")
I am wondering, why the Devs choose a such solution, yet again, its awful, I mean now you must rework some troops too, just because of Krakens trait. Fix the trait of Kraken if its a problem, dont destroy other troops as well for god sake! This reminds me badly of when the Devs made deathmark status effect useless just because of Deathknight 3rd trait. Lets be honest with ourselves, this change will have massive negative reactions. This is pure unnecessary and one of the reason why King Donboba and other chiefs left the game… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/53 "2017-10-16T16:43:13Z")
Ok just so i understand correctly… If i have a team with green seer and kraken, and i use seer to transform red to green for example which creates 2 seperate 4 matches that are completely unconnected krakens trait will only hit once? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/54 "2017-10-16T16:44:16Z")
Yeah, but also if I understood it correctly this will affect all troops that has a such 3rd trait that takes activates on 4-5 gem matches as well. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/55 "2017-10-16T16:45:00Z")
Such as mab, salad, and EK… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/56 "2017-10-16T16:45:25Z")
If I understood it correctly as I hope I didnt, yes. And all because of Krakens 3rd trait… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/57 "2017-10-16T16:46:19Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/4/4d0940b08c4a9b0fcfc1c608e4808d89548f4bdc.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/58 "2017-10-16T16:47:08Z")
Im not using many of these troops on offense so I will survive. But damn if I only could see the logic. My opinion is that they could had changed Krakens 3rd trait if its a problem, why change every similar traits that activates on 4-5 gem matches as well… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/59 "2017-10-16T16:48:06Z")
In response i would like to congratulate the devs in adding kraken to the ever growing list of troops nerfed into the rubbish bin. R.I.P. Maw BD Famine Kerby Fizzy And now Kraken Pfft ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-the-devs-please-play-their-game/31600/60 "2017-10-16T16:49:33Z")
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