# Can somebody please help me understand soul grinding?

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**Created:** [February 25, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320 "2018-02-25T19:03:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/1 "2018-02-25T19:03:26Z")

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Using Pharos-ra, pharos-ra, TDS, Warlock.

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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/2 "2018-02-25T19:04:51Z")

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Playing on Warlord 3 difficulty. According to my math I should be getting 900+ per match, what I don’t understand is how the game does the math that equals to me only getting 720…

thanks

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**Author:** ![Lilith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@Lilith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lilith)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/3 "2018-02-25T19:47:41Z")

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So you team has a cap at 40+60+60+20 from base 2 ras and warlock.

Warlord 3 diff gives a 100% soul boost. You other bonus give a total of 200%.

180 cap add 300% is 180\*4 which is 720.

How did you get 900?

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**Author:** ![Ogno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3e96dc/32.png) [@Ogno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ogno)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/4 "2018-02-25T19:55:55Z")

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Starting with a base cap of 40 souls, Necromancy adds 50% (20) and Necro Master adds 150% (60) each. This raises your soul cap to 180 (40,20,60,60). After the battle your 200% in soul bonus (armour, guild & VIP) and the 100% warlord 3 bonuses are added on. If you reached max souls you’ll receive 180 + 300%(180\*3) which is 720. Hope this helps.

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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/5 "2018-02-25T20:35:55Z")

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Hahaha. I was taking 100 as the base, it has been a while that I forgot it is 40. 😃 😃  
Thanks everybody.

If there is a better way to farm I would love to hear it but this is the best I can think of at the moment.

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**Author:** ![sayonetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@sayonetta](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sayonetta)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/6 "2018-02-25T20:44:51Z")

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Unless you’re already running Warlord 3 with a speed team, consider running a speed team.

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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/7 "2018-02-25T21:38:14Z")

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What is an example of a speed team? TDS/ra/ra/warlock takes about a minute on Warlord3.

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**Author:** ![sayonetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@sayonetta](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sayonetta)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/8 "2018-02-25T23:48:18Z")

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Ideally a speed team should only take a few moves to complete. The idea is the more runs you can get in the more souls you can collect per hour. I don’t have a really great speed team yet because I’m pretty early game, but I think I saw Tacet recommend Ra-Ra-Valk-Ra as the best soul farming team. Although yours isn’t too far off. If you could speed up your runs significantly by reducing the difficulty I’d consider that as well.

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**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-somebody-please-help-me-understand-soul-grinding/36320/9 "2018-02-25T23:56:25Z")

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I only have 2 copies of Ra or I’d use that. Reducing the difficulty to Warlord2 decreases the time by about 5-9 seconds, and anything lower and my TDS will wipe out before collecting enough souls so I think the team I have is unfortunately the fastest.

After doing some math, with where I’m at and the average it takes me to complete a battle, I should have DB crafted in 20 hours of play time.
