# Can anyone explain this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [October 21, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122 "2016-10-21T00:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/1 "2016-10-21T00:38:43Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/11199342cc29747cf3398723b238b96386944fcb.jpg) Okay. So this is a weird one. When I was playing a PvP match, the enemy Kerberos spawn a Ghoul after I team wiped, per Gate Guardian (seen below). ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/79a7cdd647ac0a60ccee80606281914a2aa88d20.jpg) Now, the strange part is that I got the Ghoul to one-shot range, but when he attack me with skulls, the game just ended. The Ghoul never died, though. I still got the win so I suppose it isn’t too big of a deal, just very peculiar. Any ideas? @Sirrian @Nimhain @Alpheon @Andrew @Lila36 ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/2 "2016-10-22T11:18:06Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/30b1c17e5b7a4e2fe4ae72a43c081c91739e08df.jpg) Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/3 "2016-10-22T11:22:59Z")
It’s broken… Also, I fought your pitchfork army with my lynch mob (Lance Knight, Peasant, Villager, Hound). Gee it took forever!! 😝 ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/4 "2016-10-22T11:55:51Z")
Peasant MUST be nerfed. Nearly unkillable when he’s alone. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/5 "2016-10-22T12:33:15Z")
What’s more important is: how are troops only getting 2 mana on matches? ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/6 "2016-10-22T13:17:30Z")
Apparently, birds aren’t the only thing going over my head because I haven’t the slightest idea what you’re talking about. 😵 ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/7 "2016-10-22T13:46:28Z")
ow yeah sorry i hadnt considering opening a new topic about it. Ive encountered some situations where one of my troops or the enemy only received 2 mana on a 3-gem match and there was no disease debuff at work, nor was 1 of 3 mana going to another troop above the one with the mana-deficit. ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/8 "2016-10-22T13:51:07Z")
Hmmm… That _is_ bizarre. I guess try your luck at making a thread and hoping for a response/reasoning? Idk. ---
**Author:** ![AngryMidget](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angrymidget/32/10478_2.png) [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/9 "2016-10-22T13:57:16Z")
Could be the banner that the team is using. Some give -1 to certain colours. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/11 "2016-10-22T14:12:10Z")
you are completely right, i have overlooked that little detail. many thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/12 "2016-10-22T19:47:32Z")
I just had that happen and thought - strange. I can understand no mana surge but 3 gem brown match with brown flag, and still got 2 mana (based on the counter) Nothing in the other team I could find 1/2 any mana or removed mana on match… It just was weird. Not the first time. But then I stopped trying to figure out all the point issues when a team I went into PVP and no way could this 1st level team even at full max everything could be what it was. At that point i said… ya know it’s magic 👿 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 8:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/can-anyone-explain-this/14122/13 "2016-10-25T08:20:21Z")
> [@AngryMidget](#): > > Could be the banner that the team is using. Some give -1 to certain colours. its totally the banner.