# Campaign Begins: Seal of Kurandara

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [July 20, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867 "2020-07-20T05:00:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/1 "2020-07-20T05:00:01Z")

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Originally published at: [Campaign Begins: Seal of Kurandara – Gems of War](https://gemsofwar.com/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/)  
   
New Campaign Begins A brand new Campaign begins today, join Scarlett in the Maugrim Woods, where there has been an unexplained recent increase of Daemon sightings. Artifact: Seal of Kurandara During this Campaign, players can earn Stars to level this Campaign’s Artifact – the Seal of Kurandara. Each new level will expand the story of…

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**Author:** ![Redi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redi1/32/63215_2.png) [@Redi1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Redi1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/2 "2020-07-20T05:16:59Z")

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**THEY’RE COMING!!!**

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/9/29407f79c07765be5fed119da3f2d11b41ac07df.gif)

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/3 "2020-07-20T05:18:54Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> against Vayna Soulmourn and Dullahan will only appear after the player wins 3 of the other battles.

??

what’s this about?

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/4 "2020-07-20T05:22:23Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> **Heart of Rage** – This troop will not be going into chests, however players will have a chance to earn him from defeating Cedric Sparklesack in the Vault after the Campaign ends. (Wondering what this guy does? He’s part of a very special Soulforge recipe. Stay tuned for more information on that in the next few weeks.)

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/a/2ac4c72a58676678f405f7aa1aeb71ac4842a97d.gif)

Pulling up a seat for this one. This is going to be good.

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**Author:** ![Redi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redi1/32/63215_2.png) [@Redi1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Redi1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/5 "2020-07-20T05:31:45Z")

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**SPOILERS AND SPECULATION BELOW**

> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> > [@Saltypatra](#):
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> > against Vayna Soulmourn and Dullahan will only appear after the player wins 3 of the other battles.
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> ??
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> what’s this about?

I am pretty sure that is a small spoiler for next weeks world event

> [@Lyrian](#):
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> Pulling up a seat for this one. This is going to be good.

There was some previous discussion that Enraged Kurandara would be craftable with Heart of Rage (that I couldnt participate in ☹ ). It would mean a second potential mythic that players also get at least partial early access to… so share the popcorn 😃

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**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/6 "2020-07-20T05:43:35Z")

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At least the aren’t armed and dangerous.

On a related note, I still highly suggest that the campaign mythic is available in soulforge in the break in between campaigns before entering the normal soulforge rotation.

I don’t think anyone would argue that $10 for the mythic is a bad deal (assuming all tasks are done) or for $25. Even at a normal mythic worth of crafting materials, these are still a good deal overall.

Waiting a whole campaign, before being able to craft the previous mythic is kinda cruel imho.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/7 "2020-07-20T05:47:41Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> **Heart of Rage** – This troop will not be going into chests, however players will have a chance to earn him from defeating Cedric Sparklesack in the Vault after the Campaign ends. (Wondering what this guy does? He’s part of a very special Soulforge recipe. Stay tuned for more information on that in the next few weeks.)

Such bs. 10 chars.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/8 "2020-07-20T05:51:22Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> **Heart of Rage** – This troop will not be going into chests, however players will have a chance to earn him from defeating Cedric Sparklesack in the Vault after the Campaign ends.

What’s to rage over this? Or should I say “potential” rage?  
The devs want you to pay for this.  
But if you are dead set on not paying (or can’t afford it.)  
Then here’s a huge hurdle for you to get it for free.  
It sounds like just another vault troop. Except that is needed to craft a different troop. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/9 "2020-07-20T05:54:29Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> - This is similar to event troops being released 3-4 weeks after their events

This gave me a lol (similar, sure, but not the same, hence I don’t really see the point being made). It sounds like we’re being convinced/persuaded? Which I don’t think would be necessary in the first place if it wasn’t problematic.

+1 to the suggestions that $10 for the Mythic (i.e. 4000 Diamonds, etc.) is enough of a reward without the 1-4 month exclusivity period – or if it’s really needed to suck in those players with hoards of Diamonds, 1 month is more than long enough, so hard cap it there.

> [@KYLENATOR001](#):
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> On a related note, I still highly suggest that the campaign mythic is available in soulforge in the break in between campaigns before entering the normal soulforge rotation.
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> I don’t think anyone would argue that $10 for the mythic is a bad deal (assuming all tasks are done) or for $25. Even at a normal mythic worth of crafting materials, these are still a good deal overall.
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> Waiting a whole campaign, before being able to craft the previous mythic is kinda cruel imho.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/10 "2020-07-20T06:02:22Z")

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> [@KYLENATOR001](#):
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> Waiting a whole campaign, before being able to craft the previous mythic is kinda cruel imho

Those who spend $10 still have to wait the whole campaign. Those who spend $25 have to wait 9 weeks (unless my math is off.)

So what would be the incentive if I had to just wait 11 weeks before I could craft it?

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**Author:** ![aurora\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@aurora\_x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurora_x)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/11 "2020-07-20T06:03:45Z")

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The start of the sentence is there…

 ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/3/a33d79b2305b488798a7e4f33102e781421124c4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/12 "2020-07-20T06:07:38Z")

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I know the beta testers had good intentions for convincing the devs not to give the 200 bonus stars at the front end but here’s week 8 for all the passes.

Free Pass: 800 max stars possible.  
Elite Pass: 800 max stars possible.  
Elite + Pass: 960 max stars possible.

So if the goal is to get the new mythic before anyone else does then for $15 more you get it a week before those who pay $10.

But if you spend $10 then you’ll get it at least a month before free pass does.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/13 "2020-07-20T06:21:04Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> So what would be the incentive if I had to just wait 11 weeks before I could craft it?

I think this is a reasonable point, even if I’m not in favour of monetising exclusivity for GoW (I still think it generally goes against the positive things people used to say about it).

I’d be happier with a shorter, defined cap, e.g. 2 weeks or a month at most:

> [@Jonathan](#):
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> if it’s really needed to suck in those players with hoards of Diamonds, 1 month is more than long enough, so hard cap it there.

Other note –

> [@awryan](#):
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> I know the beta testers had good intentions for convincing the devs not to give the 200 bonus stars at the front end

I don’t think it was ever configured as front-loaded in any of the iterations. We definitely discussed different ways to award the stars or configure the Elite+ Pass, but hard to say if any of that was considered. I.e., I don’t think the devs were convinced to implement it that way, that’s just how they decided to do it from the start and to now.

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**Author:** ![Redi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redi1/32/63215_2.png) [@Redi1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Redi1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/14 "2020-07-20T06:26:04Z")

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> [@Jonathan](#):
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> Other note –
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> > [@awryan](#):
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> > I know the beta testers had good intentions for convincing the devs not to give the 200 bonus stars at the front end
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> I don’t think it was ever configured as front-loaded in any of the iterations. We definitely discussed different ways to award the stars or configure the Elite+ Pass, but hard to say if any of that was considered. I.e., I don’t think the devs were convinced to implement it that way, that’s just how they decided to do it from the start and to now.

I just checked and it was always 20 stars per week. We never convinced them to change it from 200 up front.

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**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/15 "2020-07-20T06:42:02Z")

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Well, if it had an exclusive week for chests, such as in between campaigns, it would not matter.

Given how many mythics there are, and an additional 3 to 4 diluting the rotation and general chest pulls (assuming the Friday mythics are not discontinued), it’s not immediately available.

A $10 or $25 fee to avoid the 1 in 40 out of the average 1000 approx gem keys is a weird combination of a regular mythic being paywalled. Zuul is more exclusive, but still craftable anytime.

If we could crsft these mythics in the off weeks, the $10 is a cost saver if one is chasing a few other mythics to craft. As is, each campaign mythic gets progressivly harder and harder to get outside of lucky rng without buying.

The cryptic message about the heart is concerning as well. Not a good follow-up to more monetization in updates than actual updates.

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/16 "2020-07-20T07:00:12Z")

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> [@KYLENATOR001](#):
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> As is, each campaign mythic gets progressivly harder and harder to get outside of lucky rng without buying

And that’s exactly the point.  
Before I knew better, I’m sure I spent well over $10 trying to get a new mythic from chests. Because back then new mythics were left out of the chest pool for a month after their release week. Now they are put into the pool immediately.

I just find the argument “we don’t want to wait” as a ludicrous one. When they could very easily make it so players can’t get it for free at all.

It’s really easy…pay $10 and folks don’t have to rely on RNG.  
Choose not to spend $10 and you’ll have to rely on RNG to get it for free (minus crafting resources.)

Enough talk (it’s weekly reset) have at you! 😉

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/17 "2020-07-20T07:08:05Z")

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does the Elite Pass and Elite+ Pass have variable prices?

Is there a reason why Elite Pass is $10.99 for 50 VIP pointsand Elite+ Pass is $27.49 for 125 VIP points?

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**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/18 "2020-07-20T07:09:47Z")

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Is there a convenient controller hotkey to get back to the campaign menu? Something like double-pressing R1 to open the adventure board. It’s a huge pain navigating back to the menu (period - but especially using a controller), and we need to do it hundreds of times per campaign.

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**Author:** ![rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rojo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/rojo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/19 "2020-07-20T07:16:07Z")

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I thought they said $9.99 US. Already raised price? So the old $10 is now $11. The old $25 is now $27.50.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-seal-of-kurandara/64867/20 "2020-07-20T07:17:51Z")

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You don’t even get the vip points of the adjusted price, not that a 10% increase on the price makes me feel any better about this.

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