# Campaign Begins: Phoenix Stone
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755
**Category:** Official News
**Created:** [December 21, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755 "2020-12-21T06:59:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/21 "2020-12-22T02:31:16Z")
I vote for a straight 7% chance per Yellow gem. This still isn’t that powerful, especially for a troop that F2P players cannot get (for like a year). 😛
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### Author:  [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/22 "2020-12-22T05:44:30Z")
That seems pretty powerful considering casting won’t change the board state at all. You could theoretically get into a position, with enough yellow gems, to virtually guarantee infinite (or at least a high number) of extra turns, unless I’m missing something.
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### Author:  [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/23 "2020-12-22T05:47:25Z")
@VegaDark541 Guessing you would only get 1 extra turn though, to even it out. Then you would have to refill before casting a second time.
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### Author:  [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/24 "2020-12-22T05:48:12Z")
Oh yeah, I forgot about needing to refill mana, so that would force you to change the board state for that.
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### Author:  [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/25 "2020-12-22T06:36:43Z")
> [@cyberkiwi](#):
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> Elite (additional):
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> - 1 Mythic (Quetzalma)
> - 1 Pet to Mythic (Quetzantini) + yellow pet food
> - 1 Legendary (The Sun)
> - 3 Books of Deeds
> - **330 gems**
> - **20 gem keys (worth ~180 gems)**
> - **16 event keys (worth ~216 gems)**
> - 2000 diamond shards
>
> From any shop or offer, you cannot even get near 726 gems worth of gems for USD 10.
Good news. The total gems in the elite pass is 435, not 330, so it is even better!
But.
I never spend gems on keys, so giving a gem value to the keys doesn’t work in my case. I do pay for the gem sub, and that sub is cheaper per gem than the campaign.
I don’t buy gem directly though. The campaign is cheaper per gem than those for people who buy tons of gems.
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### Author:  [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/26 "2020-12-22T06:48:25Z")
> [@Snooj](#):
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> Good news. The total gems in the elite pass is 435, not 330, so it is even better!
I stand to be corrected, but I believe that extra 105 gems will cost you quite a bit for the Elite+ Pass.
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### Author:  [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/27 "2020-12-22T09:20:49Z")
The elite+ pass only exists to make the elite pass look good. Devs want as many players as possible signed onto the elite pass. Expect the rewards to get juicier and an increase to FOMO in the campains ahead.
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### Author:  [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/28 "2020-12-22T14:26:50Z")
Whoops you are right. I thought both paid passes gave extra stars.
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/30 "2021-02-10T09:59:46Z")
> [@Live](#):
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> What about The Sun and chests /soulforge?
After the release of this unit by the pass, do we now know or can get an official answer if there is a “normal” way to get it?
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/31 "2021-02-10T10:29:27Z")
> [@Live](#):
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> After the release of this unit by the pass, do we now know or can get an official answer if there is a “normal” way to get it?
It’s a Suncrest troop, so it will likely get added to the standard pool 3 - 4 week after the campaign ends. I suspect there won’t be any official answer, this question already got asked months ago without receiving any response. Apparently their time budget is too constrained for anything but PQ3.
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### Author:  [@blindnighto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blindnighto)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/32 "2021-02-10T11:48:28Z")
Like in previous campaigns, all troops and weapons will be available in forge/chests 3-4 weeks after the campaign ends. You will have a chance of getting The Sun from any chest starting March 21st or 29th. However, you will only find The Sun from event chests when Suncrest rolls around again AFTER the campaign is over, meaning it could be as long as 40 weeks (34 kingdoms, 10 every 11 weeks, plus 4 kingdoms remaining from current cycle and 3 weeks in current campaign) if it’s the last kingdom in the next cycle.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/33 "2021-02-10T12:41:52Z")
> [@blindnighto](#):
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> Like in previous campaigns, all troops and weapons will be available in forge/chests 3-4 weeks after the campaign ends.
The entry post doesn’t mention The Sun, only the other items from the campaign, hence the question. Whether this is an oversight in the event description or an additional paywall receiving the silent treatment is currently unknown.
> [@blindnighto](#):
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> However, you will only find The Sun from event chests when Suncrest rolls around again AFTER the campaign is over, meaning it could be as long as 40 weeks (34 kingdoms, 10 every 11 weeks, plus 4 kingdoms remaining from current cycle and 3 weeks in current campaign) if it’s the last kingdom in the next cycle.
There isn’t any kingdom cycle like in the forge, they are picked entirely at random. Some kingdoms haven’t had an event for close to two years.
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### Author:  [@blindnighto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blindnighto)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/34 "2021-02-10T13:25:05Z")
I see what you mean now regarding The Sun. Guess we’ll find out in 2 weeks when someone that hasn’t bought the campaign pass either gets the troop or doesn’t. My guess is that it was an oversight because they wanted to write more about how The Sun fits into the Major Arcana and all that and that it will only be available 3-4 weeks later. It seems weird to me that they would put something in the Elite Pass which will (conveniently) be available 1 week later. But stranger things have happened.
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> There isn’t any kingdom cycle like in the forge, they are picked entirely at random. Some kingdoms haven’t had an event for close to two years.
I was referring to the weapon cycle, which pertains to kingdoms which in turn has a cycle. For troops, while there is a cycle, I agree that it isn’t affected by kingdoms.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/35 "2021-02-10T13:46:15Z")
> [@blindnighto](#):
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> I was referring to the weapon cycle, which pertains to kingdoms which in turn has a cycle.
Me too. There isn’t any kingdom cycle. Event chests and weapons are based on the weekly kingdom, and that is picked entirely at random for all practical purposes. Pridelands and Blackhawk haven’t received one for a very long time, Suncrest might not show up again till 2023.
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### Author:  [@blindnighto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blindnighto)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/36 "2021-02-10T14:05:20Z")
Except that there hasn’t been any repeat kingdom since campaigns started. This could be random “luck” but I think this is the new normal. Just like mythics and legendaries cycle, I think now we can expect kingdoms to cycle as well.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/37 "2021-02-10T14:29:20Z")
> [@blindnighto](#):
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> Except that there hasn’t been any repeat kingdom since campaigns started.
There have been repeats, like Zaejin and Ghulvania.
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### Author:  [@blindnighto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/blindnighto)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/38 "2021-02-10T16:45:06Z")
From Taransworld, every world event since the Campaign started on July 20th:
| Start | End | Kingdom | Campaign |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Monday, Jul 20, 2020 | Sunday, Jul 26, 2020 | Maugrim Woods | 1 |
| Monday, Jul 27, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 02, 2020 | Ghulvania | 1 |
| Monday, Aug 03, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 09, 2020 | Silverglade | 1 |
| Monday, Aug 10, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 16, 2020 | Forest of Thorns | 1 |
| Monday, Aug 17, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 23, 2020 | Glacial Peaks | 1 |
| Monday, Aug 24, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 30, 2020 | Shentang | 1 |
| Monday, Aug 31, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 06, 2020 | Karakoth | 1 |
| Monday, Sep 07, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 13, 2020 | Blighted Lands | 1 |
| Monday, Sep 14, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 20, 2020 | Sin of Maraj | 1 |
| Monday, Sep 21, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 27, 2020 | Urskaya | 1 |
| Monday, Oct 05, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 11, 2020 | Grosh-Nak | 2 |
| Monday, Oct 12, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 18, 2020 | Mist of Scales | 2 |
| Monday, Oct 19, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 | Darkstone | 2 |
| Monday, Oct 26, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 01, 2020 | Divinion Fields | 2 |
| Monday, Nov 02, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 08, 2020 | Dragon’s Claw | 2 |
| Monday, Nov 09, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 | Dhrak-Zum | 2 |
| Monday, Nov 16, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 22, 2020 | Sword’s Edge | 2 |
| Monday, Nov 23, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 29, 2020 | Drifting Sands | 2 |
| Monday, Nov 30, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 06, 2020 | Whitehelm | 2 |
| Monday, Dec 07, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 13, 2020 | Khetar | 2 |
| Monday, Dec 21, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 27, 2020 | Zhul’Kari | 3 |
| Monday, Dec 28, 2020 | Sunday, Jan 03, 2021 | Stormheim | 3 |
| Monday, Jan 04, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 10, 2021 | Bright Forest | 3 |
| Monday, Jan 11, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 17, 2021 | Merlantis | 3 |
| Monday, Jan 18, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 24, 2021 | Adana | 3 |
| Monday, Jan 25, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 31, 2021 | Pan’s Vale | 3 |
| Monday, Feb 01, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 | Zaejin | 3 |
| Monday, Feb 08, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 | Broken Spire | 3 |
| Monday, Feb 15, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 21, 2021 | Khaziel | 3 |
| Monday, Feb 22, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 28, 2021 | Suncrest | 3 |
| Monday, Mar 08, 2021 | Sunday, Mar 14, 2021 | Blackhawk | 4 |
> **For ease of browsing, I've made ordered it alphabetically here**
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> | Start | End | Kingdom | Campaign |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | Monday, Jan 18, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 24, 2021 | Adana | 3 |
> | Monday, Mar 08, 2021 | Sunday, Mar 14, 2021 | Blackhawk | 4 |
> | Monday, Sep 07, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 13, 2020 | Blighted Lands | 1 |
> | Monday, Jan 04, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 10, 2021 | Bright Forest | 3 |
> | Monday, Feb 08, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 | Broken Spire | 3 |
> | Monday, Oct 19, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 | Darkstone | 2 |
> | Monday, Nov 09, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 | Dhrak-Zum | 2 |
> | Monday, Oct 26, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 01, 2020 | Divinion Fields | 2 |
> | Monday, Nov 02, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 08, 2020 | Dragon’s Claw | 2 |
> | Monday, Nov 23, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 29, 2020 | Drifting Sands | 2 |
> | Monday, Aug 10, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 16, 2020 | Forest of Thorns | 1 |
> | Monday, Aug 17, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 23, 2020 | Glacial Peaks | 1 |
> | Monday, Jul 27, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 02, 2020 | Ghulvania | 1 |
> | Monday, Oct 05, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 11, 2020 | Grosh-Nak | 2 |
> | Monday, Aug 31, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 06, 2020 | Karakoth | 1 |
> | Monday, Feb 15, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 21, 2021 | Khaziel | 3 |
> | Monday, Dec 07, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 13, 2020 | Khetar | 2 |
> | Monday, Jul 20, 2020 | Sunday, Jul 26, 2020 | Maugrim Woods | 1 |
> | Monday, Jan 11, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 17, 2021 | Merlantis | 3 |
> | Monday, Oct 12, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 18, 2020 | Mist of Scales | 2 |
> | Monday, Jan 25, 2021 | Sunday, Jan 31, 2021 | Pan’s Vale | 3 |
> | Monday, Aug 24, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 30, 2020 | Shentang | 1 |
> | Monday, Aug 03, 2020 | Sunday, Aug 09, 2020 | Silverglade | 1 |
> | Monday, Sep 14, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 20, 2020 | Sin of Maraj | 1 |
> | Monday, Dec 28, 2020 | Sunday, Jan 03, 2021 | Stormheim | 3 |
> | Monday, Feb 22, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 28, 2021 | Suncrest | 3 |
> | Monday, Nov 16, 2020 | Sunday, Nov 22, 2020 | Sword’s Edge | 2 |
> | Monday, Sep 21, 2020 | Sunday, Sep 27, 2020 | Urskaya | 1 |
> | Monday, Nov 30, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 06, 2020 | Whitehelm | 2 |
> | Monday, Feb 01, 2021 | Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 | Zaejin | 3 |
> | Monday, Dec 21, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 27, 2020 | Zhul’Kari | 3 |
And the 3 Tower of Doom events:
| Start | End | Doom | Kingdom |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Monday, Sep 28, 2020 | Sunday, Oct 04, 2020 | Doom of Nature ID:6662 | Bright Forest |
| Monday, Dec 14, 2020 | Sunday, Dec 20, 2020 | Doom of Flame ID:6663 | Blighted Lands |
| Monday, Mar 01, 2021 | Sunday, Mar 07, 2021 | Doom of Stone ID:6666 | Dhrak-Zum |
However, Tower of Doom events are probably excluded since there are only 6 Doom kingdoms with their own cycle.
The 4 missing kingdoms from the campaign kingdom cycle:
- Blackhawk (Will start Campaign 4 on Mar 8th with Willy the Anchor)
- Leonis Empire
- Pridelands
- Wild Plains (Scheduled for Mar 15th with Pyrohydra)
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/39 "2021-02-10T19:28:57Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> The entry post doesn’t mention The Sun, only the other items from the campaign, hence the question.
Yes, that was the reason for my question.
I hope at least in the upcoming campaign ends post, we will get a concrete answer, if this was on purpose.
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### Author:  [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/40 "2021-02-11T09:34:39Z")
here, take a look at screenshot:
> [@Cool screenshot topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cool-screenshot-topic/10368/3189):
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> 
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> ‚Not yet‘ released but already in the (chests and) LT pool.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/41 "2021-02-11T10:15:04Z")
> [@blindnighto](#):
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> From Taransworld, every world event since the Campaign started on July 20th
You are missing some kingdom events in between, there isn’t a world event on every one of them.
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