# Campaign Begins: Phoenix Stone **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [December 21, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755 "2020-12-21T06:59:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/1 "2020-12-21T06:59:56Z")
Originally published at: [Campaign Begins: Phoenix Stone – Gems of War](https://gemsofwar.com/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/) New Campaign Begins A brand new Campaign begins today, the sun has not risen in Krystara, plunging the world into eternal night. Artifact: Phoenix Stone During this Campaign, players can earn Stars to level this Campaign’s Artifact – the Phoenix Stone. Each new level will expand the story of the Campaign and also give Skill… ---
**Author:** ![cyberkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/2 "2020-12-21T07:29:36Z")
Free: 3 Books of Deeds, 360 Writs Elite (additional): - 1 Mythic (Quetzalma) - 1 Pet to Mythic (Quetzantini) + yellow pet food - 1 Legendary (The Sun) - 3 Books of Deeds - **330 gems** - **20 gem keys (worth ~180 gems)** - **16 event keys (worth ~216 gems)** - 2000 diamond shards From any shop or offer, you cannot even get near 726 gems worth of gems for USD 10. \*\* _Not all rewards noted. Those not mentioned are… not notable. Haven’t included Elite+ above, you shouldn’t even consider it. 🤷‍♂️_ ---
**Author:** ![Arelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arelana/32/16081_2.png) [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/3 "2020-12-21T07:33:36Z")
Wow, another new mythic and we still haven’t seen Kurandara in the forge yet. This is getting a little depressing from a collector standpoint. (Not to mention, the pets.) ---
**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/4 "2020-12-21T07:34:31Z")
What about The Sun and chests /soulforge? ---
**Author:** ![Potemkinz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/potemkinz/32/74067_2.png) [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/5 "2020-12-21T07:52:20Z")
I immediately check whether it’s a super mythic (boss) or not, and im glad there isnt any new boss troop ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/6 "2020-12-21T07:54:48Z")
that wouldn’t show up until week 9/10 if anything… ---
**Author:** ![Potemkinz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/potemkinz/32/74067_2.png) [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/7 "2020-12-21T07:56:52Z")
ouch… i hope there wont be … ---
**Author:** ![cyberkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/8 "2020-12-21T08:09:43Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > that wouldn’t show up until week 9/10 if anything… That’s probably true, but the component (Heart of Rage) for Enraged Kurandara was out right from the start. And having scoped the craftable mythic, assets were already in game files. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@aurora\_x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurora_x)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/9 "2020-12-21T08:17:45Z")
@Saltypatra Normally I like campaigns. What I find somewhat of a killjoy however are tasks that run for more than one day. This week for instance 3x complete adventure board. Suggestion: I don’t mind doing the campaign over a span of the whole week. Then only activate some tasks for one day and keep the others locked. Yes it is essentially the same as adventure board, but the frustration to have to wait, because it was designed to hold the player back, is unnecessary. Like this we have a feel of accomplishment and you have happier players. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/10 "2020-12-21T08:37:42Z")
> [@cyberkiwi](#): > > Free: 3 Books of Deeds, 360 Writs @ 880 points, so free can skip week 10, as a whole (last book @ 850, last writs @ 880) Same, as last one. > [@cyberkiwi](#): > > From any shop or offer, you cannot even get near 726 gems worth of gems for USD 10. this might be a step into a direction, some people suggested like @ChunkyMono : they will make rewards from Elite Pass be equivalent of few hundreds of gems and than, after another few campaigns, there will be an option for free players to get the pass with gems… but it basicaly be eqivalent to rewards in gems/keys from elite pass price in cash will stay same, price in gems will be much much higher than 10$( if you would like to buy gems for cash intead and pay with gems… ) at least, that might be a way of making the pass more attractive ---
**Author:** ![Potemkinz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/potemkinz/32/74067_2.png) [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/11 "2020-12-21T08:42:28Z")
![Screenshot_20201221-144336](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/1/c1bd1d4e65e95c3be3495710dfea4831b6bd9748.jpeg) does this means : a. with 14 -15 yellow gems on board, i can get an extra turn (based on description) b. with 64 yellow gems, i only have 9% chance of getting an extra turn (based on boost ratio) ??? @Saltypatra help, im confused ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/12 "2020-12-21T08:53:05Z")
> [@Potemkinz](#): > > does this means : > a. with 14 -15 yellow gems on board, i can get an extra turn (based on description) > > b. with 64 yellow gems, i only have 9% chance of getting an extra turn (based on boost ratio) > > ??? > > @Saltypatra > > help, im confused Guess it means: For each yellow gem, game will roll with a 7% chance of success. It **does not mean** , you will have 70% chance on extra turn with 10 yellow gems, but 10x 7% chances of getting one. Like on lottery → each yellow gem on board means, you get 1 extra tickect for extra turn. Each ticket has 7% chance of winning. Boost ratio is probably making it more blur. It’s probably like this: | number of gems | chance for success | chance for fail | change for sucess (bad wording) | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | 7% | 93% | 7% | | 2 | 14% | 86% | 14% | | 3 | 20% | 80% | 21% | | 4 | 25% | 75% | 28% | | 5 | 30% | 70% | 35% | | 6 | 35% | 65% | 42% | | 7 | 40% | 60% | 49% | | 8 | 44% | 56% | 56% | | 9 | 48% | 52% | 63% | | 10 | 52% | 48% | 70% | | 11 | 55% | 45% | 77% | | 12 | 58% | 42% | 84% | | 13 | 61% | 39% | 91% | | 14 | 64% | 36% | 98% | | 15 | 66% | 34% | 100% | | 16 | 69% | 31% | 100% | | 17 | 71% | 29% | 100% | | 18 | 73% | 27% | 100% | | 19 | 75% | 25% | 100% | | 20 | 77% | 23% | 100% | | 21 | 78% | 22% | 100% | | 22 | 80% | 20% | 100% | | 23 | 81% | 19% | 100% | | 24 | 82% | 18% | 100% | | 25 | 84% | 16% | 100% | | 26 | 85% | 15% | 100% | | 27 | 86% | 14% | 100% | | 28 | 87% | 13% | 100% | | 29 | 88% | 12% | 100% | | 30 | 89% | 11% | 100% | Edit: as @TheIdleOne has posted, it might just be a bad wording, added extra column for such cases ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/13 "2020-12-21T09:02:05Z")
> [@Sytro](#): > > Guess it means: For each yellow gem, game will roll with a 7% chance of success. > It **does not mean** , you will have 70% chance on extra turn with 10 yellow gems, but 10x 7% chances of getting one. Like on lottery → each yellow gem on board means, you get 1 extra tickect for extra turn. Each ticket has 7% chance of winning. Boost ratio is probably making it more blur. They have used poor choices of wording for other abilities in the past. The fact it shows a boost ratio makes me inclined to think its an addition and not separate checks. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/14 "2020-12-21T09:05:48Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > They have used poor choices of wording for other abilities in the past. The fact it shows a boost ratio makes me inclined to think its an addition and not separate checks. That might also be true. Fully agree. ---
**Author:** ![cyberkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/15 "2020-12-21T09:06:41Z")
As far back as Lyrasza and Deep Hive troops, we know devs understand the word “independent”, which is not mentioned here. However, the ratio is actually wrong. For troops with armor into damage bonus, it is presented thus: 2:1 ratio = every 2 of my armor into 1 more damage Now given it says 7:1 boost, what do you need 7 of, to produce 1 more of each time? If it says 1:7, then it’ might actually mean 1 more yellow gem for 7 more % of [cumulative] chance. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/16 "2020-12-21T09:41:57Z")
> [@cyberkiwi](#): > > However, the ratio is actually wrong. For troops with armor into damage bonus, it is presented thus: > 2:1 ratio = every 2 of my armor into 1 more damage > > Now given it says 7:1 boost, what do you need 7 of, to produce 1 more of each time? If it says 1:7, then it’ might actually mean 1 more yellow gem for 7 more % of [cumulative] chance. usualy ratio 7:1 means you need 7 of something to get +1 x7 is the ratio that would match the description (check Dawnbringer or troops that give extra damage based on blue allies/enemies etc. they all have x#) ---
**Author:** ![cyberkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/17 "2020-12-21T09:44:12Z")
You are right. I was reversing the 7:1 to 1:7 to illustrate the X for Y, but the game presents it as “7x”. The question is still, what do I need 7 of, to get 1 of, according to the 7:1 ratio. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/18 "2020-12-21T09:56:48Z")
Ok, one summary table: | campaign week | kingdom | free points | elite+ points | artifact (FREE) | artifact (E+) | GW week | Artifact advantage of E+ | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | Zhul’Kari | 100 | 120 | 0l,0at,0am,+2m | 0l,0at,0am,+2m | 0 | | | 2 | Stormheim | 200 | 240 | 0l,+3at,0am,+2m | 0l,+3at,0am,+2m | 0 | | | 3 | Bright Forest | 300 | 360 | +5l,+3at,0am,+2m | +5l,+3at,0am,+2m | 0 | | | 4 | Merlantis | 400 | 480 | +10l,+3at,0am,+2m | +10l,+3at,0am,+2m | 1 | | | 5 | Adana | 500 | 600 | +10l,+3at,+5am,+2m | +10l,+3at,+5am,+4m | 0 | +2magic | | 6 | Pan’s Vale | 600 | 720 | +10l,+3at,+5am,+4m | +10l,+6at,+5am,+4m | 0 | +3attack | | 7 | Zaejin | 700 | 840 | +10l,+6at,+5am,+4m | +15l,+6at,+5am,+4m | 0 | +5life | | 8 | Broken Spire | 800 | 960 | +15l,+6at,+5am,+4m | +15l,+6at,+10am,+4m | 1 | +5armor | | 9 | Khaziel | 900 | 1080 | +15l,+6at,+10am,+4m | +15l,+9at,+10am,+4m | 0 | +3attack | | 10 | Suncrest | 1000 | 1200 | +15l,+9at,+10am,+4m | +15l,+9at,+10am,+4m | 0 | | ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/19 "2020-12-21T10:30:13Z")
> [@Sytro](#): > > It **does not mean** , you will have 70% chance on extra turn with 10 yellow gems, but 10x 7% chances of getting one. It almost certainly means that you will have a 70% chance for an extra turn with 10 yellow gems, never mind the wording. There’s a very small chance their developer had a brain seizure and insisted on rolling up a random number for each yellow gem. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755/20 "2020-12-21T22:35:50Z")
For a troop that’ll likely go in the hole and never used; conversation is moot. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/campaign-begins-phoenix-stone/67755.md?page=2)