# Burning Scythe is too powerful in Arena
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [March 12, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530 "2016-03-12T06:56:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Jayceknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jayceknight)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/1 "2016-03-12T06:56:18Z")
Everyone just use Burning Scythe in Arena because it can **BURN** , deal damage to **ALL ENEMIES** , and Sorcerer can give you at least 5+2 magic when using purple weapon.
I just feel terrible if enemy gets full mana to use Burning Scythe before you can use it.š
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### Author:  [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/2 "2016-03-12T07:19:35Z")
Uhmā¦ less QQ more Pew Pew?
Heh, Iām enjoying that phrase a little too much lately.
But seriouslyā¦ leave my Burning Scythe alone! š
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/3 "2016-03-12T07:20:45Z")
Leave it alone. š„
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### Author:  [@Azbra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Azbra)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 8:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/4 "2016-03-12T08:22:07Z")
The issue is not burning scythe or staff of madness or crescendo, the magic skill is just too high.
Attack is scaled down in arena, but I donāt think magic is. Got one person who wiped me out (whole team but hero) with 2 crescendo and lucky drop
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### Author:  [@Azbra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Azbra)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/5 "2016-03-12T08:31:36Z")
Add morthani scythe to the list of overpowered weapons currently in the arena.
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### Author:  [@LegendMaker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LegendMaker)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/6 "2016-03-12T08:55:08Z")
No, to all of the above! š
Continuing the discussion from [1.0.9 - Known Issues](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/86):
> [@Jayceknight](#):
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> Sorcerer can give you at least 5+2 magic when using purple weapon.
Not in Arena, it doesnāt. +5 from the class weapon bonus, yes. +2 from the perk, nope.
> [@ctu1208](#):
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> Uhmā¦ less QQ more Pew Pew?
Indeed. ^^
> [@ctu1208](#):
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> But seriouslyā¦ leave my Burning Scythe alone! š
> [@Eika](#):
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> Leave it alone. š„
YES! I WILL. =)
> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/87):
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> Sure, weaker players will jump on the most obvious easy advantage they can get out of it at first, and so should they. Let them spam their boosted Burning Scythes to their heartsā content. After a few runs and a serious reconsideration of my strategy, Iām already beating that trick fairly consistently; itās just the new Imperial Jewel, basically. Bring it on! I am not afraid. Actually, Iām having a blast. =)
Last but not least:
> [@Azbra](#):
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> The issue is not burning scythe or staff of madness or crescendo, the magic skill is just too high. Attack is scaled down in arena, but I donāt think magic is.
Not exactly. The sudden boost to Magic for some weapons is simply from what I explained in the linked thread:
> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/86):
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> What actually happens is that Hero Class color-based magic bonuses to weapons do work in the Arena. All of them.
> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/90):
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> This brings back a Hero-focused meta, as expected. Itās not a bad thing, itās a nice change of pace once you consider the new, bigger picture.
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> Also, many troops were changed, for better and for worse, and some very neat new ones were introduced. Your Wolf Knight hits for 11 True Damage now! Your Musketeer hits for 8, still at a bargain 2 regular moves mana cost! Every other troop gives you a now-deadly Burning or Poison effect! This is not the place for a moderate Hero. This is a place for a STRONG Hero.
I would of course encourage you guys to read the rest of my essay and eventual acceptance of this new phase in the Arena in the other thread. But if tl;dr, Iāll just leave you with this:
> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/90):
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> New patch, new meta! Enjoy! =)
Cheers!
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### Author:  [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/7 "2016-03-12T09:20:13Z")
I personally donāt feel Hero Class magic bonuses should apply in arena. Though thatās just my personal opinion.
I do enjoy blazing through opponents with two charges of a weapon, donāt get me wrong! But still, it doesnāt feel intended.
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### Author:  [@LegendMaker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LegendMaker)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 10:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/8 "2016-03-12T10:27:44Z")
Alright, looks like this is just something that the devs didnāt notice so far.
Enjoy it while it last, I guess (or dread it, whichever the case might be for each of us). ^^
Continuing the discussion from [1.0.9 - Known Issues](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/91):
> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372/91):
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> Looks like it is unintended.
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> Sirrian: ā\* hero class does not apply in the arenaā¦ Unfortunately it just dominates the entire game if we allow it (sorry arena folks), but I think the wins still count towards the weapon unlockā
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> from this patch preview post: [1.0.9 Preview Part 1 ā Hero Classes - #46 by Sirrian](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-preview-part-1-hero-classes/4133/46?source_topic_id=4372)
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### Author:  [@DanWhatever](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DanWhatever)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/9 "2016-03-12T10:58:49Z")
What about Land Shark? Is a turn #2 devour something we want in this format?
Itās a suboptimal card with a 25% chance of a derp lottery, and people draft it for that reason.
As for weapons being powerful, I dont hate it, but it is going to form a meta. People forget that itās part of Arena. We now have 4 areas that give magic bonuses when it used to ne 1. No-one remembers that, as Arena was nerfed to the point of pointless in 1.0.8.
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### Author:  [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/10 "2016-03-12T13:04:32Z")
> [@DanWhatever](#):
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> What about Land Shark? Is a turn #2 devour something we want in this format?
Pros:
- 25% Chance Devour
- 9 Base Attack
Cons:
- Targets Randomly
- Minor Damage
- Sacrifices Turn
- 12 Mana
No, I think itās fine. If youāre really afraid of it, just deny mana, same way you would a pesky Rock Worm.
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### Author:  [@AnalSwordfish](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnalSwordfish)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/11 "2016-03-12T22:26:44Z")
Where/how does one get this Burning Scythe? Not seeing mention of it anywhere.
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/12 "2016-03-12T22:30:36Z")
Hey! š You need 40 Gem mastery in Red and Purple for the Burning Scythe.
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### Author:  [@teasel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/teasel)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/13 "2016-03-12T23:19:28Z")
burn is really powerfull now that it can actualy kills, iāve had an arena game where i literaly died after 3 cast of chimera
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### Author:  [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 8:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/14 "2016-03-13T08:34:20Z")
On the topic of weapons that make arena really miserable: Yasmineās Chalice. It was pretty bad before but itās ridiculous now.
All allies get 5 life and 5 armor with each castāthatās +40 health to chew through.
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### Author:  [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/15 "2016-03-13T12:14:39Z")
> [@Personette](#):
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> On the topic of weapons that make arena really miserable: Yasmineās Chalice. It was pretty bad before but itās ridiculous now.
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> All allies get 5 life and 5 armor with each castāthatās +40 health to chew through.
Last time I fought it open world provided +16/+16 a shot and had color feeders. Think I used the alt-f4 magic after a few turns.
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### Author:  [@Synergy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Synergy)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/16 "2016-03-13T12:17:45Z")
shoot im loving the burning scythe, it makes running through the arena fairly fast esp if your lucky enough to get a color pumper like giant spider š
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### Author:  [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/17 "2016-03-13T12:21:07Z")
> [@Synergy](#):
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> shoot im loving the burning scythe, it makes running through the arena fairly fast esp if your lucky enough to get a color pumper like giant spider š
Couldnāt we just have the shortcut? Enter arena, show up the scythe, get the 8 vic reward instantly. Why bother with the stuff in between?
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### Author:  [@Synergy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Synergy)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/18 "2016-03-13T12:34:19Z")
well im currently greedy ok, here iāll be honest. If i can run through the arena twice in a short amount of time, why not do it esp with the double gold weekend, and 2 more magic kingdoms to level to 10.
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### Author:  [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/19 "2016-03-13T13:16:18Z")
> [@Personette](#):
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> All allies get 5 life and 5 armor with each castāthatās +40 health to chew through.
It always did that though, and it never was a problem just as other weapons did about the same damage as a regular burning scythe, albeit less efficient, and they never dominated the arena.
It really just is the unintended class bonus to heroās magic in arena that is the problem.
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### Author:  [@teasel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/teasel)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burning-scythe-is-too-powerful-in-arena/4530/20 "2016-03-14T01:31:21Z")
i just had a fight where the opponent hero had 11 magic and the chalice so every cast he gave 11 health and 11 armor to all of his unit, 3 cast and everyone had triple the amount of health they had from the start
so yeah, iām not sure having class bonus apply to the arena is a good idea
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