# "Burn! Baby Burn!" says the Queen

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [June 2, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851 "2016-06-02T14:50:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/1 "2016-06-02T14:50:38Z")

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So how exactly is Mana Burning working? Take Mab for instance. Her spell says Mana burn all enemies boosted by my magic. I assume it’s 1:1 for the boost? So if her magic is 13, and the enemy has, let’s say, 13 out of its 15 mana, the total damage is 26?  
I’m asking since I’m sometimes feeling she deals way more than that, but it’s happening so quickly, Besides that she is also gaining mana every time an ally is casting a spell.

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/2 "2016-06-02T14:52:30Z")

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It might help if the damage showed up on her spell.

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**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/3 "2016-06-02T14:56:03Z")

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Or the boost ratio? I have been missing that…

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/4 "2016-06-02T14:59:58Z")

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Pretty sure it’s 1:1

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**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/5 "2016-06-02T15:05:01Z")

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One thing that makes it confusing is that I believe she is getting the +1 magic before casting her spell.

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**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/6 "2016-06-02T15:05:51Z")

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She buffs herself before each cast

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**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/7 "2016-06-02T15:14:09Z")

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It is 1:1.

Somehow, they thought the text couldn’t be “Inflict [Magic] damage and Mana Burn to all ennemies” as it goes with every other spell 😕

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/8 "2016-06-02T15:30:55Z")

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> [@Zelarith](#):
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> Somehow, they thought the text couldn’t be “Inflict [Magic] damage and Mana Burn to all ennemies” as it goes with every other spell 😕

I still don’t know why it isn’t like this. New mechanic text vs applied convention… convention _should_ win…

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/9 "2016-06-02T15:37:49Z")

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Out of curiosity… if the troop has 0 Mana, does Mab still do damage to them?

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/10 "2016-06-02T15:39:32Z")

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She does damage equal to her magic

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/11 "2016-06-02T15:47:19Z")

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I guess the wording was the put the emphasis on the Mana Burn portion of it. Though from the wording of it, it almost sounds like it shouldn’t do damage if a troop has no mana, since there is nothing to burn, and therefore no damage to boost.

Maybe @Sirrian or @Nimhain can clear up how the magic portion works?

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/12 "2016-06-02T16:15:11Z")

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Mana Burn as a mechanic feels like it actually complicates wording (since now you need a legend) vs. a more straightforward: “Deal [Magic] damage to all enemies, boosted by their current Mana.”

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/13 "2016-06-02T16:34:47Z")

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I think the wording was chosen intentionally, so people wouldn’t immediately be aware that she already almost deals Behemoth level damage without any mana burned.  
#buffbehemoth…more

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/14 "2016-06-02T16:50:59Z")

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> [@MarvelKit](#):
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> One thing that makes it confusing is that I believe she is getting the +1 magic before casting her spell.

This is the way Arcane has always worked.

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**Author:** ![JasonAshcroft](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jasonashcroft/32/1974_2.png) [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/15 "2016-06-02T22:46:16Z")

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1. The boost ratio isnt shown (it’s 1:1) - make a tooltip for the boost ratio
2. There’s no damage amounts shown on the targets hit when the spell is cast - make damage amounts shown on targets hit
3. The animation hits everyone instantly rather than from top to bottom like with every other aoe - make animation go from top to bottom

Not a problem if you know how it works, but since it’s a completely new mechanic (that is ridiculously strong for the mana cost), it should be made more understandable by solving the three points stated above.

> [@Lyya](#):
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> Mana Burn as a mechanic feels like it actually complicates wording (since now you need a legend) vs. a more straightforward: “Deal [Magic] damage to all enemies, boosted by their current Mana.”

I agree 100%.

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/16 "2016-06-03T00:08:01Z")

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Oh no don’t tell me some on here want her nerfed already 😕

Give others a boost then like behemoth 😉

I don’t have maw let alone his op 3rd trait. Normally I get hammered with players who are level 1000 using an annoying bug.

All hail Queen Mab. I feel like I stand a chance, a good chance now that I have her 😉

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/17 "2016-06-03T00:13:39Z")

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No fear guys i have it on good word troop reworks are possible next week so here is to behemoth getting a boost. Also queen mab is a horrible troop that needs a boost too. She needs more magic and her third trait is almost good enough for magic boost but she is still not as good as tyri where mana counts.

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/18 "2016-06-03T13:25:49Z")

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> [@killerman3333](#):
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> Also queen mab is a horrible troop that needs a boost too.

She should not be boosted. She is already great. Arcane on an AOE is pretty obscene. Play her in a deck that loops, or even with someone like Soothsayer, and she is extremely fast and powerful. Add to that her 3rd trait slowing down the other team.

Just because the AI can’t play her, doesn’t make her weak.

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/19 "2016-06-03T13:36:30Z")

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I’m pretty sure that was extreme sarcasm on @killerman333 post.

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**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/burn-baby-burn-says-the-queen/7851/20 "2016-06-03T14:51:36Z")

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I didn’t see that as sarcasm, but rather as a way to say “no señor Nerf, Queen Mab no es here”.

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