# Buff Nysha/Anu drop rates

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [July 16, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806 "2020-07-16T17:32:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vistal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@vistal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vistal)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/1 "2020-07-16T17:33:00Z")

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It’s kind of silly that I don’t even have to farm for souls because the drop rate is abynissmal.

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**Author:** ![MagiBelgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@MagiBelgr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MagiBelgr)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/2 "2020-07-16T21:12:32Z")

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Or let us craft them from lower rarity medals/tokens

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/3 "2020-07-16T21:48:43Z")

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Add 13-20 levels of difficulty in explore and up the drop rates appropriately…

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**Author:** ![YourMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/df705f/32.png) [@YourMom](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/YourMom)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/4 "2020-07-17T02:06:47Z")

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It would only favor the veterans, when I found myself do lv500 delve just like lv200, it’s about strategy, not stats.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/5 "2020-07-17T07:42:25Z")

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I got bored and decided to extend the [current datamined drop rates](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-4-6-datamined-token-drop-rates/58912) to a hypothetical 13-20th difficulty.

| Diff | **C** | **R** | **U** | **E** | **L** | **M** |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 13 | 0.16 | 0.22 | 0.39 | 0.135 | 0.065 | 0.03 |
| 14 | 0.14 | 0.21 | 0.38 | 0.15 | 0.08 | 0.04 |
| 15 | 0.12 | 0.20 | 0.37 | 0.165 | 0.095 | 0.05 |
| 16 | 0.10 | 0.19 | 0.36 | 0.18 | 0.11 | 0.06 |
| 17 | 0.08 | 0.18 | 0.35 | 0.195 | 0.125 | 0.07 |
| 18 | 0.06 | 0.17 | 0.34 | 0.21 | 0.14 | 0.08 |
| 19 | 0.04 | 0.16 | 0.33 | 0.225 | 0.155 | 0.09 |
| 20 | 0.02 | 0.15 | 0.32 | 0.24 | 0.17 | 0.10 |

Also for kicks, I made some assumptions about what the token drop rates would be, leading to the following list of expected dropped tokens per boss fight:

| Diff | # Tokens | **C** | **R** | **U** | **E** | **L** | **M** |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 13 | 2.6 | 0.416 | 0.572 | 1.014 | 0.351 | 0.169 | 0.078 |
| 14 | 2.7 | 0.378 | 0.567 | 1.026 | 0.405 | 0.216 | 0.108 |
| 15 | 2.8 | 0.336 | 0.56 | 1.036 | 0.462 | 0.266 | 0.14 |
| 16 | 2.9 | 0.29 | 0.551 | 1.044 | 0.522 | 0.319 | 0.174 |
| 17 | 3 | 0.24 | 0.54 | 1.05 | 0.585 | 0.375 | 0.21 |
| 18 | 3 | 0.18 | 0.51 | 1.02 | 0.63 | 0.42 | 0.24 |
| 19 | 3 | 0.12 | 0.48 | 0.99 | 0.675 | 0.465 | 0.27 |
| 20 | 3 | 0.06 | 0.45 | 0.96 | 0.72 | 0.51 | 0.30 |

Is this likely to happen? No, but a guy can dream…

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/6 "2020-07-17T07:44:27Z")

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explore actually looks playable by explore 20…

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/7 "2020-07-17T07:47:14Z")

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Yeah. I’m not thrilled by the fact that we still get less than 0.5 Nysha tokens per run, but if compromise means that everyone is halfway happy, I guess I could live with those numbers I basically pulled out of my behind.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/8 "2020-07-17T13:10:31Z")

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This is great. Add in the level of the opponent; gold multiplier; and submit this to dev’s for approval. 😉

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**Author:** ![Goodly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Goodly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Goodly)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 2:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/9 "2020-07-18T02:57:13Z")

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I will still advocate for merging medals before creating a bigger difficulty curve simply because it doesn’t change the game at all. You will just make everyone farm E20 instead of E12 and use lethal damage. We need an edit that will engage people not in the end game more with regards to medals.

I can stand on your side that Nysha’s are a problem but I don’t want Explore being so stat buffed that it becomes a lethal damage or armor strip only mode. Right now you can still make teams that are true damage, skullspam, or boost based team that can still effectively tackle E12 despite a slower rate. This variety will likely vanish if the enemy stats are boosted x2 higher.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/10 "2020-07-18T04:08:09Z")

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Reasonable points being made all around, here!

What happened to you all?

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 8:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/11 "2020-07-18T08:51:14Z")

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> [@MagiBelgr](#):
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> Or let us craft them from lower rarity medals/tokens

That wouldn’t help because the ratio would be ten to one to upgrade.

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**Author:** ![TheCuillin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@TheCuillin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheCuillin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/12 "2020-07-18T09:33:14Z")

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I’ve explored a lot and yet still have only 2 nysha badges and not a single medal. When I equate that with 1 x XP boost rate, it’s not an attractive option. Pvp has double class boost and makes more sense. Token drops in explore should be related in some way to battles fought, not pure RNG. I’ve heard of folks who’ve fought less explore than me who have 12 or more nysha medals. That’s just plain ridiculous

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/13 "2020-07-18T09:44:19Z")

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The Nysha drop rates are not equal across all difficulties, so if you and others are not using the same difficulty setting you will have different experiences.

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**Author:** ![TheCuillin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@TheCuillin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheCuillin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/14 "2020-07-18T09:51:07Z")

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I only fight on lvl 12 so that just amplifies how unfair this is

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/15 "2020-07-18T10:25:42Z")

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> [@TheCuillin](#):
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> I’ve heard of folks who’ve fought less explore than me who have 12 or more nysha medals. That’s just plain ridiculous

I kinda doubt that. Unless they are paying for them because they have been for sale several times.

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**Author:** ![TheCuillin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@TheCuillin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheCuillin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/16 "2020-07-18T10:26:48Z")

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Nope. Same investment (zero) same game count.

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**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/17 "2020-07-18T10:33:21Z")

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> [@TheCuillin](#):
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> Nope. Same investment (zero) same game count.

What sort of numbers are on your mind?

Just for the sake of information, here are my latest statistics (all for E12, of course):  
 ![unknown](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/8/48c54d935bcd82f8919a160580d63dbd0d9f26f8.png)

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**Author:** ![Denthegod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/denthegod/32/69138_2.png) [@Denthegod](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Denthegod)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/18 "2020-07-18T12:49:02Z")

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Yeah they buffed it alright. It’s got a 100% drop rate today for 50 bucks on the ps4. Whuuuuuuuut

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**Author:** ![TheCuillin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@TheCuillin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheCuillin)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/19 "2020-07-19T18:52:51Z")

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With respect your’re numbers are irrelevant based upon my experience and that of others. Spreadsheets based on randomness prove zero

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**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/buff-nysha-anu-drop-rates/64806/20 "2020-07-19T19:01:08Z")

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I think an easier request for the devs outside of changing the drop rate is to at least make explore lol 12 should be 3 tokens, not 2 or 3.

I have gotten a couple nysha tokens this weekend, but it would be nice to actually get enough tokens for the troop upgrades as well.

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