# Board control/Mab, Maw counter **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [June 11, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299 "2016-06-11T23:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/1 "2016-06-11T23:22:49Z")
I’ve been enjoying great success with this team, quite fun! Keep the goodies away from Maw and keeps the board from Mab’s colors too. Jarl Infernal King Jarl Mercy ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/2 "2016-06-12T06:45:02Z")
I only just got jarl this week and now it seems another jarl team has entered the fray. ---
**Author:** ![zachraziel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zachraziel/32/3836_2.png) [@zachraziel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/zachraziel)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/3 "2016-06-12T11:28:19Z")
This may sound quite like I’m being a killjoy here, so I apologise. Fun team it would be, but Jarl’s spell is probably the worst thing to use against either Maw or Mab, there really is no board control. Against Maw, you’re creating yellow gems without knowing placement. AI will usually have a yellow banner up for him also. Against Mab, although you have Mercy, you’re not creating any green or blue to get her multiple casts. Apart from the chance at getting multiple troops frozen, you’re also giving Mab’s favourite offsider, Valkyrie, her very colours to choose from. Edit: For true board control, type ‘transform’ into the search of your troops. Endless options to wipe any team without the AI getting more than one turn along side your Mercy and IK ---
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/4 "2016-06-12T14:14:57Z")
I’d say on paper it looks more difficult but give it a go if you feel inclined as it is truly a fun team to play. It’s quick and easy, Jarls will reload themselves and keep board control, especially with 2 and the Huge and Fiery cloak traits on Jarl can get their lives up above 100 while burning the entire team if you lose control of the board. Mercy loads King at the start so you can begin to own the board. Best thing I could say is the combo of King and Jarl makes for an exciting and joyful game of keep away while taking them down. ---
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/5 "2016-06-12T16:37:32Z")
Here is a nice example of success against Maw, Maw, Mab, Mercy ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/3a50f109e6c2375cfae1c6e3805a38c9bc168040.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/6/6e62fed7f678bd324bda212a6b376f03a1d4e008.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/3d35aa22b9df8ab8a1e8ca9a6a3934cc38c2091c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/6 "2016-06-12T16:39:29Z")
My apologies for not getting the shot right before, I’m new to posting. Good news is I did have fun taking them out and got the second Jarl up nicely in health. Maw only fired once too. ---
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/7 "2016-06-12T16:59:54Z")
Ok this should be a better example if I did the pictures well 😉 Here goes, board control vs. Maw, Maw, Infernal King, Mercy Should show the progression and board control a bit better. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/172c1842aee4e8d36f324b817059ca1bf975364d.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/28324534d6c21d3ba5474e67f63871ad8006e854.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/3eee1fa99d5439eca9dc2df3a7ad5aa5596fc7cb.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/a/a20886b37f44d80b332d8cf87bdde336a12e9abc.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/1202b70e04780d954f6c63fc29e1c070fc49ebb1.png) Uploading… Uploading… Uploading… Uploading… Uploading… ---
**Author:** ![Bremen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@Bremen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bremen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/8 "2016-06-12T17:01:33Z")
Ha! Well I gave it a go, I’m not good at posting turns out Sorry for poor order of pictures 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/9 "2016-06-12T17:37:13Z")
Maw’s spell can only fire once per game, per team. Using more than one in a team is a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/10 "2016-06-12T17:41:06Z")
They are probably hoping for the buggy third trait to devour some extra troops if the first Maw gets killed. ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/11 "2016-06-12T17:49:29Z")
> [@Personette](#): > > Maw’s spell can only fire once per game, per team. Using more than one in a team is a waste. It was my understanding that if you had 2 maws then each of them can fire once (for a total of 2 casts) can someone show confirm that this is not true ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/12 "2016-06-12T17:52:35Z")
The Trait isn’t bugged, matching 5 is bugged ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/13 "2016-06-12T18:06:44Z")
This was discussed awhile back in another thread. Maw’s spell is a one-shot ability. So, it only occurs once per team. It doesn’t matter if you have 4 Maw. However, his third trait skull devour can continue to happen. > [@I haven't seen this before](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-havent-seen-this-before/8174): > > What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened? I set up a double Maw team to fight a triple Maw team. First time I tried a team with two Maws. My first Maw ate their first Maw, but the screen showed that my second Maw had also cast when it hadn’t. It also shows the send Maw gained life, but that was from a Mercy cast. What are the steps to make it happen again? Use a double Maw team, I guess. Do you have any screenshots or video you want to share with us so we can see the … ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/14 "2016-06-12T18:16:01Z")
IMHO, the trait is bugged. When I write code and it isn’t doing what I expected it to do, that’s a bug. Sirrian has already stated that the code for the third trait isn’t doing what they expected with stacking percentages. As for match 5 counting as 6 points, I don’t know if that is or is not what they want it to do. > [@Queen Mab, The Goddess](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/77): > > The only nerf under consideration for Maw is a reduction of his 3rd trait from 15% to 10%. Other than that, there is an indirect nerf coming which is actually a bug fix. His 3rd trait is supposed to be a flat 15% chance but it is stacking with multiple skull matches (not cumulatively, but 3 skull matches at once from say a bone dragon would give 3 independent 15% chances). ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/15 "2016-06-12T18:22:59Z")
Considering 5-matches don’t always count as two matches (it triggers about 50% of the time), I’d say it is unintentional. I made a separate topic about it and got an answer that, while explaining how matches work, completely avoided the 5-match issue. I asked for a specific answer on it and it has been completely ignored, no matter how many developers I tag. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/16 "2016-06-12T19:08:12Z")
It would be nice to get an answer to the question about 5-matches for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/17 "2016-06-12T19:36:29Z")
It seems to be a console thing though or it is just much much more rare on pc to happen as i have not consciously witnessed this 5 match glitch happening to me yet. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/18 "2016-06-12T19:38:40Z")
Same. I have yet to see that glitch on PC/mobile. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/19 "2016-06-12T19:44:03Z")
Proof then the two versions have separate code for their boards and not copied over as claimed ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299/20 "2016-06-12T19:49:15Z")
been playing for almost a year and a half on pc/mobile - whats a 5 glitch? 😃 never seen where i didnt get at least the 10 mana (or 11 or 12 based on flags) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/board-control-mab-maw-counter/8299.md?page=2)