# Best empowered troop team ideas **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 5, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972 "2016-06-05T07:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/1 "2016-06-05T07:38:58Z")
[http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=empowered](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=empowered) After perusing the empowered troops i noticed troops that are perfect counters to what is commonly played. I also noticed that it is easy to make empowered teams that uses all 6 colors that counter the current meta and to ensure overflow protection with prismatic orb. Lamia faunessa soothsayer prisma orb. What is your best all color empowered teams. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/2 "2016-06-05T07:46:05Z")
Can you go into more detail on how this counters the commonly played? Are we talking Mawrcy? Goblins? Mab and friends? Also why use Soothsayer in that team instead of say, Keghammer who can counter Jarl at least. Soothsayer doesn’t really seem to add much except maybe to Prismatic Orb. Been looking at empowered teams myself lately, but I don’t have the traits to properly test them out D: But more aiming at quick traitstone farming, rather than PVP ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/3 "2016-06-05T07:47:07Z")
Please explain how this team counters the current meta? Forgive me, I only play 100s of battles a week in top tier pvp, so don’t quite appreciate your point. Have you tried invading top tier pvp with such a team? If so, please post a video so we can learn from this, as I don’t see such a team being remotely effective: - Lamia’s damage can’t be targeted - Faunessa is the only targeted damage - Soothsayer buffs Magic which doesn’t benefit Lamia at all or Faunessa much - Prismatic Orb makes so few gems it’s as likely to hand the board to the enemy - what do you do in turn 4 after you’ve fired the three spells, to not great effect? > [@killerman3333](#): > > i noticed troops that are perfect counters to what is commonly played Er, no… even if the lower tier meta is all goblins, I don’t quite see this deck being especially effective against them… Best empowered troop by a long way is Mercy. Gob-chomper offers an interesting Empowered counter to Maw (and Goblins!), but you really need two of them (for Maws), and so far I am finding it hard to build a fully effective team around it. I’d welcome your expert input further. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/4 "2016-06-05T07:49:46Z")
The team i listed is an anti-skull team for an example. i can post empowered teams that counter other metaish stuff as well but use your imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/5 "2016-06-05T07:50:49Z")
Yeah, it can hit high attack troops pretty hard, but I still don’t see why Soothsayer is in there 😛 ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/6 "2016-06-05T07:57:28Z")
Soothsayer is there as both an empowered troop and because he boosts two troop’s magic (hero and the one that gives health) Anti maw team is [http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091](http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091) Anti-goblin team is [http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6173,6023,6017,1091](http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6173,6023,6017,1091) Anti-giant team/high magic team [http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6096,1091](http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6096,1091) Then again they start with full mana and start with a quick counter and then use the enemies team against itself. Also does lamia activate maw’s trait or no? ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/7 "2016-06-05T08:18:04Z")
She shouldn’t it’s not Skull Damage ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/8 "2016-06-05T08:21:39Z")
That is true, ignore my question. I thought it was when he dealt damage to a troop not by skull damage. My ability to make anti meta stuff is making me crazy. Also if only the elf eater was empowered things would be great against queen mab. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/9 "2016-06-05T08:21:56Z")
That ‘anti-maw’ team… have you _actually_ tried using it? Let’s try a poll - who thinks this team [http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091](http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091) would get any kind of win rate (better than 80% say) against a meta Maw/Mercy/IK/Shegrra team? EDIT: that team is Lamia/StarGazer/DustDevil/PrismaticOrb (for those that can’t or didn’t follow the link) _Poll ([view on site](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/9))_ EDIT: I have closed the poll - the UI won’t let me delete the poll, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/10 "2016-06-05T08:24:56Z")
Just to confirm, we are talking about on invades yes? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/11 "2016-06-05T08:25:41Z")
Yes… (10 characters) ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/12 "2016-06-05T08:25:52Z")
Dust devil moves maw causing mercy to charge Infernal king, Now i have lamia to take out everything as it tanks and poisons stuff. Got star gazer to boost the 13 attack and deny blue and orb to recharge her armour and it might create gems that go to the enemy or they might not. That is assuming the empowered team is invading. Also seeing as maw is a monster i could take another team against it that also is an empowered team. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/13 "2016-06-05T08:31:27Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > seeing as maw is a monster i could take another team against it Wasn’t the ‘anti-maw’ team your anti-maw team? Or you’re saying you’d use a different team against maws? > [@killerman3333](#): > > Dust devil moves maw causing mercy to charge Infernal king Right, so IK can cast sooner and mow through your team… > [@killerman3333](#): > > Now i have lamia to take out everything as it tanks and poisons stuff Lamia is not a tank. No stoneskin, no life gain or heal… and poison achieves nothing against Maw teams… aha, that IK _might_ die in 25+ turns… > [@killerman3333](#): > > Got star gazer to boost the 13 attack and deny blue Deny blue? eh? Lamia needs blue… and IK and Shegrra and Maw don’t need blue… and you’re buffing Attack on a lead troop but have no consistent board control or way to create skulls… > [@killerman3333](#): > > orb to recharge her armour and it might create gems that go to the enemy Orb is, sorry, just a _bad_ weapon these days… Not seeing any use in the late game… ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/14 "2016-06-05T08:43:12Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Or you’re saying you’d use a different team against maws? My anti-maw team was made to shutdown the maw team, However if i just want to focus down on maw i could with another team seeing as it is a monster. [quote=“Jainus, post:13, topic:7972”] Right, so IK can cast sooner and mow through your team… [/quote] Yes in hopefully the same turn as mercy or it fails giving me a lot of extra turns filling red troops and nailing attacks. Remember the ai is not smart. [quote=“Jainus, post:13, topic:7972”] Lamia is not a tank. No stoneskin, no life gain or heal… and poison achieves nothing against Maw teams… aha, that IK might die in 25+ turns… [/quote] I think you missed charm, my orb and my attack buffing star gazer with that point and mercy is not that strong on offence so those skulls might be 30 damage if you are lucky and then what do you do[quote=“Jainus, post:13, topic:7972”] Lamia needs blue… and IK and Shegrra and Maw don’t need blue… and you’re buffing Attack on a lead troop but have no consistent board control or way to create skulls… [/quote] I do not need that much mana. Only 8 for her to do over 14 damage which is higher than her attack. Also i can do that in turn one or turn two depending on how i feel. [quote=“Jainus, post:13, topic:7972”] Orb is, sorry, just a bad weapon these days… Not seeing any use in the late game… [/quote] Still cost less than some of your spells and covers all the colors i overflow with while mana blocking so mercy and team do not go off more than once. Though i find it funny you chose maw out of the other three teams. Did i hit a cord? ---
**Author:** ![JasonAshcroft](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jasonashcroft/32/1974_2.png) [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/15 "2016-06-05T08:52:52Z")
Still not a good counter to a Maw team imho. I stick to my team of: Knight Coronet \*\*\* Shadow Hunter \*\* Valkyrie \*\*\* Naga Queen \*\*\* double blue banner and 3x water link fills Knight Coronet almost instantly so you can fire it 3-4 times before the Maw is charged. Not a team to specifically counter Maw, but a good team overall. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/16 "2016-06-05T08:54:01Z")
Let’s not argue more about it, and see how others consider the argument and vote. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/17 "2016-06-05T08:54:27Z")
That is a good attack team. However @Jainus thought hey how can i derail this into a personal vendetta against maw specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/18 "2016-06-05T08:58:37Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > However @Jainus thought hey how can i derail this into a personal vendetta against maw specifically. No, you posted that an Empowered team would counter the meta teams, and proposed an Anti-Maw team. I am simply disagreeing. No vendetta at work here… I am genuinely interested in finding better Maw-beating solutions given I face them in more than half of my games - I think GobChomper could help… maybe GobChomper x2, or GobChomper with Siren, or GobChomper with Mercy… I also think it’s quite right, acceptable and arguably necessary, to put opposing views to your tactical advice, as (1) I disagree with it, and this is a forum and that’s what forums are for, and (2) your advice could be very misleading to new players who could invest resources on a build that frankly doesn’t work… ---
**Author:** ![JasonAshcroft](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jasonashcroft/32/1974_2.png) [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 8:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/19 "2016-06-05T08:59:06Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > However @Jainus thought hey how can i derail this into a personal vendetta against maw specifically. Well the title says “… the great anti-maw vote”. And I still cant see how the anti-maw-team you posted works as a counter to Maw. Nevermind ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972/20 "2016-06-05T09:04:40Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > No, you posted that an Empowered team would counter the meta teams, and proposed an Anti-Maw team. I am simply disagreeing. No vendetta at work here… > [@killerman3333](#): > > I also noticed that it is easy to make empowered teams that uses all 6 colors that counter the current meta and to ensure overflow protection with prismatic orb. I guess i specified in my opening post that it could kill maw specifically if you read it that was but i think the building process is what you missed about my original post,[quote=“JasonAshcroft, post:19, topic:7972”] And I still cant see how the anti-maw-team you posted works as a counter to Maw. Nevermind [/quote] Dust devil disengages maw’s third trait and stops mercy from filling it slowing and or stopping its spell from filling. Also i did not add the poll part to the title. @Jainus most likely did it to gather more attention to his poll not my poll. Also i showed how easy it was to build a team for countering maw but the “easy” part was ignored so this topic about empowered troops has devolved into anti-maw/mercy sentiment from @Jainus while hiding under the guise of “i didn’t do nothing.” [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/best-empowered-troop-team-ideas/7972.md?page=2)