# Ban Icons 60 minutes before Weekly Reset **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [June 30, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028 "2025-06-30T12:57:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/1 "2025-06-30T12:57:50Z")
Spent a full week staying on top of my Diamond League (almost 800 victories in total), and was leading the league by around 7k Victory Points 3 minutes before reset. I was checking my mail and was informed that I ended up in second place. I don’t care about the rewards nor will lose any sleep over the position, but this system allows for players to get the feeling of having the rug pulled from under them, which is something that you may wish to avoid in general. 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/2 "2025-06-30T22:19:29Z")
Just to be transparent about this, I have had players submit tickets that they were X place before reset and then when I confirm, there are players in the final minutes who have surpassed them from completing battles. But will pass on the feedback around Icon lock out around reset. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/3 "2025-06-30T23:38:08Z")
Thanks for the transparency and response, as always: if anyone actually did 7k VP in 3 minutes, then I may be PvP-ing wrong 😛 My invite code is in my profile if you want to have a look at what transpired, but either way the feedback is valid I think, & thanks for picking it up. 🙏 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/4 "2025-06-30T23:39:41Z")
I am SURE there are a lot of Icons being dropped at reset, but yeah, just wanted to mention, cos there are smaller cases (beaten by a few hundred) and I have to be like.. Sorry mate, someone surpassed you.. 🫠 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/5 "2025-06-30T23:40:08Z")
Serious question, wouldn’t this just change getting sniped a few minutes before the end to getting sniped an hour and a few minutes before the end? You won’t be able to use icons the last hour either, so anybody who times this right won’t have troubles maintaining their lead until reset. The only way to prevent this would be to make icons only count for alliance rank and shop unlocks, never for leaderboard placement. Which would likely not be a popular decision, because it seriously devalues them. ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/6 "2025-06-30T23:42:16Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > The only way to prevent this would be to make icons only count for alliance rank and shop unlocks, never for leaderboard placement. This would also be trickier to resolve versus, just, icons are blocked 1 hour out from weekly reset ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/7 "2025-06-30T23:43:28Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Serious question, wouldn’t this just change getting sniped a few minutes before the end to getting sniped an hour and a few minutes before the end? You won’t be able to use icons the last hour either, so anybody who times this right won’t have troubles maintaining their lead until reset. There’s still things you can do in the last hour to spam VP. If they have 40,000 VP from Icons, then yeah, you’re SoL… but that’s unlikely. 5,000 VP lead? That’s not impossible to overtake unless both players are playing at an even rate while throwing everything… and that’s unlikely sustainable for a full hour, constantly. If it was, then they wouldn’t have been in that situation in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/8 "2025-06-30T23:45:55Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > 5,000 VP lead? That’s not impossible to overtake unless both players are playing at an even rate while throwing everything… and that’s unlikely sustainable for a full hour, constantly. Well, we are talking about top position in Diamond League, right? I’d assume that both players are somewhat equal in capabilities, otherwise they wouldn’t be competing there. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/9 "2025-06-30T23:46:55Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > wouldn’t this just change getting sniped a few minutes before the end to getting sniped an hour and a few minutes before the end? While 60 minutes was arbitrary, we can at least catch up with several thousand VP within that time, thus limiting the sniping scenarios to massive Icon dumps, especially since allegedly our opponents likely do not have us in their group, and are unable to see (an therefore chase) our score specifically. 🤔 🤞 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Julli-of-North](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/julli-of-north/32/91083_2.png) [@Julli-of-North](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Julli-of-North)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/10 "2025-06-30T23:49:29Z")
> [@AMT](#): > > did 7k VP in 3 minutes, Nah. They just leveled backwards and were like level -838. Got 1,5k VP every battle 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/11 "2025-06-30T23:49:36Z")
> [@AMT](#): > > While 60 minutes was arbitrary, we can at least catch up with several thousand VP within that time, thus limiting the sniping scenarios to massive Icon dumps, especially since allegedly our opponents likely do not have us in their group, and are unable to see (an therefore chase) our score specifically. Why wouldn’t they be in the same group? As much as I know, the phantom bubble issue was solved like years ago. And it usually worked in your favor, because you placed higher than indicated. Unless there’s a new issue I’m not aware of? Edit: There must be some information missing here. Why would they even consider sniping you in the first place if they can’t see you score? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/12 "2025-07-01T00:03:46Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Well, we are talking about top position in Diamond League, right? I’d assume that both players are somewhat equal in capabilities, otherwise they wouldn’t be competing there. It’s not hard to win Ruby League… Some people intentionally tank Diamond League and go back to Ruby League because it is THAT easy to win. The disparity of Diamond League is large. Top 3 can be 100-200k or more and the people surviving/not relegating can be as low as being less than the full weekly pvp rewards. > [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Why wouldn’t they be in the same group? As much as I know, the phantom bubble issue was solved like years ago. And it usually worked in your favor, because you placed higher than indicated. Unless there’s a new issue I’m not aware of? You can appear in other people’s groupings that aren’t in yours, but you aren’t getting rewarded for winning their groupings. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/13 "2025-07-01T00:07:04Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > You can appear in other people’s groupings that aren’t in yours, but you aren’t getting rewarded for winning their groupings. That’s the phantom bubble bug, is it really still around? It’s actually beneficial to have a phantom in your group, they not only don’t get rewarded for winning in your group, they also pass on the reward to the next real player in line. ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/14 "2025-07-01T00:07:49Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > You can appear in other people’s groupings that aren’t in yours, but you aren’t getting rewarded for winning their groupings. Is there any recent proof of this? A screenshot of your league and someone else in a different league who can see you? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/15 "2025-07-01T00:11:48Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > That’s the phantom bubble bug, is it really still around? It’s actually beneficial to have a phantom in your group, they not only don’t get rewarded for winning in your group, they also pass on the reward to the next real player in line. Just because the phantom don’t get rewarded for their win doesn’t mean you win a higher reward than your listed at. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/16 "2025-07-01T00:13:27Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Just because they don’t win doesn’t mean you win a higher reward than your listed at. Yes, it does. Phantoms get factored out when rewards get calculated. At least that’s the way it was handled back when they were still an issue. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/17 "2025-07-01T00:20:45Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > Why would they even consider sniping you in the first place if they can’t see you score? I don’t know if it was deliberate sniping or I was collateral due to third-party-sniping in a different group (not sure if Jeto can see in the logs and confirm whether the second player had me in his group): in either case, with some buffer time to react I could have tried to do something about it (or accepted it as a lost cause) without the rug-pulling feeling thing. 😛 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/18 "2025-07-01T00:21:16Z")
uh at the moment, this is not something I can look into to answer. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/19 "2025-07-01T00:36:01Z")
Likely not worth the time either: what matters is the core feedback. 🙏 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![becauseican646](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@becauseican646](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/becauseican646)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028/20 "2025-07-01T00:42:39Z")
Isn’t the ability to win the week like this the only positive to icons? Icons are trash as far as I’m concerned and I will never buy the pvp pass because of them but if you are competing for top slot you don’t need an extra 1500vp for anything besides wining in the last seconds before reset. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ban-icons-60-minutes-before-weekly-reset/88028.md?page=2)