# Balance traitstone usage **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [July 31, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533 "2016-07-31T17:54:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/1 "2016-07-31T17:54:14Z")
We all know the pain of running out of red minor by now, so I wanted to see just how bad it is. I downloaded the ToDo Monitor to see what the usage stats are with nothing traited: Blue 1902 Green 2202 Red 3036 Yellow 1908 Purple 2526 Brown 2100 If it were dead equal (not realistic, but for instructive purposes) each would use 2279 stones. Which means red is 800 stones over average while blue and yellow are 300 each. What I would suggest is go through the Red/Yellow and Red/Blue troops and swap the minor used. Flame Canon for example takes 60 minor red, 14 major red, 6 major yellow, 6 of each runic, 3 arcane. If you swapped that to 60 minor yellow you would bring each color closer to balance. If you did this for 4-5 troops each you would bring red down by 600 and blue and yellow up. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/2 "2016-07-31T18:01:14Z")
Aaaaand… 10 out of 13 Purple/Brown troops require Minor Magic. Shocked, I tell you… Oh nevermind, Red/Yellow is 11/13 needing Fire. Red/Blue is a bit better with 8/13 (or 9/14 counting War). ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/3 "2016-07-31T18:03:41Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Aaaaand… 10 out of 13 Purple/Brown troops require Minor Magic. Shocked, I tell you… yup, swap out 3 of those to make it 7 vs 6, and would reduce Purple by about 200 and increase Brown making it 2326 to 2300, far more balanced. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/4 "2016-07-31T19:18:07Z")
Also a suggestion, although more about minor/major balance: replace minors by majors on every legendaries third trait. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/5 "2016-07-31T20:10:57Z")
Or, y’know, _all three_ traits for Legendaries… ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/6 "2016-07-31T23:01:06Z")
Good analysis, Rasper. Maybe it might be addressed with future kingdom release troops favouring the lesser required minors? ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/7 "2016-07-31T23:51:43Z")
What if the devs choose red mana more because they are on team red (pokemon go reference here) ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/8 "2016-08-01T00:46:25Z")
I would love to see a rebalancing of those red monsters! Please make this happen! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/9 "2016-08-01T01:06:12Z")
'Nuff said. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e0252d21046091942a46949b20347a650e33f623.PNG) ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/10 "2016-08-01T04:26:03Z")
I assume that the variation in usage/drop rate is intentional, to create more variation in our emotional responses to drops. Monotony is a real killer. You combat monotony by hitting a range of emotional responses… the wider the range the better. As low as possible, as high as possible, as many points in between as possible. (This is why getting great drops all the time gets boring so fast–it’s monotonous.) That being said, I have no idea why major traitstones exist at all. All six major traitstones evoke an emotional reaction of “Ugh,” in, as far as I can tell, absolutely every single player. ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/balance-traitstone-usage/10533/11 "2016-08-01T04:29:31Z")
> [@Personette](#): > > range of emotional responses… all i see is red… **rage quit** … j/k.