# Ascending From Mythic To.....Celestial? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648 "2017-03-23T17:28:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/21 "2017-03-24T08:52:40Z")
> [@Mekkalyn](#): > > unless it’s cosmetic only > [@Tacet](#): > > eventually bring back the old “shiny” format > [@Isis\_Kitty](#): > > get the troop to shiny status, make a requirement that it be used a certain number of times in battle, like 100? 1,000? I like these various cosmetic options. Skins, if you like. New art was suggested at one point, however that costs devs a lot of money and has system implications / memory use etc etc for implementing. Shame, as it’d be nice. Upgraded card look and feel might be nice. I’d rather see this come with ‘use that troop 100 times’ requirements (with a money or gems purchase option to help monetise), than any form of ascension. > [@HKdirewolf](#): > > they could even sell a package to get all cards shiny for a certain price as well. Yeah like he said. Even better, could add personalised card-frames (skins again 😃 )… even one different design per kingdom, which only applies to Mythic cards… e.g. Broken Spire frame is brown/blue tinted, with red dragon tails/wings entwined… etc… Unlocks at say kingdom power level 9 or 10, or can be purchased for cash or gems… ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 9:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/22 "2017-03-24T09:59:29Z")
cosmetics that are **totally free** (kingdom power / victory count) are not beneficial enough to put dev work on it imo sure kingdom power requires a lot of card collection but if a collector wants that cosmetic frame it means they are goign to want kingdom power first anyway so for them it comes free and since it comes free then the wallet warriors wont feel like needing to spend on it - not as much if it was via ascension @Isis_Kitty, @Jainus i dont really understand you guys, do you simply want it easier obtainable? since its just cosmetic it **should** be implemented the way it requires spending **additional resources** in order to obtain it. reaching kingdom power is no additional resources. fighting battles also isnt ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 10:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/23 "2017-03-24T10:04:00Z")
my idea for shiny card would be the whole image has a glow/animation effect - it can be same glow for all the cards or it can depend on the kingdom [details=example of glow/animation effect] without: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/a/da143bb135d47fe21c631b5b3c7ed8468774edf9.png) with the glow: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/9/8986cd6b946c427178e9fc2c37253352e112e2ea.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/8/78b62ff1185ceb93e5530a16ac61c68a237e80db.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/6/06d0b84dda288d43ad11c15810d5882601c20b08.png)[/details] ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/24 "2017-03-25T21:36:29Z")
Please, no more ascending. I’ve disenchanted so many extra copies of mythics /base legendary troops because we were told this would never happen so I’d be really pissed if this decision was reversed. More power levels aren’t required and if you want shiny skins then maybe they should be available to buy separately for a small monetary outlay. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/26 "2017-03-25T22:25:30Z")
I warned you guys! ---
**Author:** ![depechenode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/depechenode/32/16344_2.png) [@depechenode](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/depechenode)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/27 "2017-03-26T00:30:33Z")
I personally like the shiny card idea as well. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/28 "2017-03-26T00:43:12Z")
> [@Mekkalyn](#): > > After a year of playing on mobile I can’t ever distinguish the kingdom icons and I never know which troop is from where… short of memorizing Same problem if you play on console without glasses;) In all seriousness I wish it was easier to distinguish Kingdoms and it would be nice to know base rarity in some screens. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/29 "2017-03-26T04:06:22Z")
I like the “Foil” idea (to borrow a term from M:tG). Must have at Mythic. Must have 4 copies. Pay 50? gems. Get foil version and it is removed as an option from random chests. That way it doesn’t increase power directly, it doesn’t require additional copies of cards, it is easy to track (tracking # of battles with each card is a database bloat), it consumes resources, and it gives both cosmetic and utility to incentivize players to buy. ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/30 "2017-03-29T05:47:47Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > Must have at Mythic. > Must have 4 copies. > Pay 50? gems. > Get foil version and it is removed as an option from random chests. This is brilliant! And removing it from chests gives incentive to those players who don’t care about cosmetic upgrades!! +1000 to this!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/31 "2017-03-29T08:49:38Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > Must have at Mythic. > Must have 4 copies. > Pay 50? gems. > Get foil version sounds good > [@Rasper](#): > > and it is removed as an option from random chests. if it was base mythic then i think its fine, but imagine removing the ultra rares epics and legendaries u dont want for a glory/gem chests - it would become too much beneficial per chest opening, that would have to cost way more then 50 gems if added at all after some more thinking maybe the cost should scale depending on base rarity (and generally cost more or much more) sorry im pulling out a lot of gems like this but were talking about end game feature something like: mythic 100 gems legendary 200gems epic 300gems ultra rare 350 gems rare 400 gems common 450 gems unless removing them would mean souls are dropped instead of these cards (not changing drop rates of remaining cards) ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/32 "2017-03-29T12:22:30Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > I like the “Foil” idea (to borrow a term from M:tG). > > Must have at Mythic. > Must have 4 copies. > Pay 50? gems. > Get foil version and it is removed as an option from random chests. > > That way it doesn’t increase power directly, it doesn’t require additional copies of cards, it is easy to track (tracking # of battles with each card is a database bloat), it consumes resources, and it gives both cosmetic and utility to incentivize players to buy. I know the devs read all this… but this one is worth prodding @sirrian @Nimhain on… ---
**Author:** ![Nakirahdark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nakirahdark/32/20867_2.png) [@Nakirahdark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nakirahdark)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/33 "2017-03-29T12:31:27Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/4/845f62fedaf9b50d2a693a40b3cb47d867816546.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/34 "2017-03-29T14:41:04Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > unless removing them would mean souls are dropped instead of these cards (not changing drop rates of remaining cards) I’ve posted on the concept before. The point of removing is to shrink the pool so you’re more likely to get what you need (and by the time you’re doing this, you don’t need souls). There are 70 URs in the game. If you have one left to ascend trying to get it is a serious PITA as you only have a 1 in 70 shot of getting it. If you spent 2000 gems to Foil 40 of the UR, then your odds go to 1 in 30. And it would be a 3500 gem investment to Foil them all to make future URs easier. And I assumed if you removed all Ultra-Rare troops and then rolled to get one, you’d get the corresponding rarity traitstone (Runic) ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/35 "2017-03-29T15:25:52Z")
yes, i perfectly understand the concept i simply believe 2000 gems in this case is too cheap as you would be reducing drop rates from 1:70 to 1:30 (more then 2x better chances) please just calculate (or try to imagine) the gem cost difference in the cost of chest pulls to actually get the card to mythic with scenario a) no drop rates changed and b) drop rates changed the way we talk about. in the a) its costing way more then a 50gem per chance increase ---
**Author:** ![unluckytony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c57346/32.png) [@unluckytony](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/unluckytony)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/36 "2017-03-29T20:56:52Z")
The “tangible benefits” are minimal. Completionists will want to get those shinies! ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/37 "2017-03-29T21:01:01Z")
This completionist couldn’t care less about shinies when there’s 3 or 4 mythics that are currently completely out of reach… ---
**Author:** ![unluckytony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c57346/32.png) [@unluckytony](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/unluckytony)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/38 "2017-03-29T21:08:14Z")
Gives you something to do in the meantime. I would totally go for shiny mythic of the ones I do have. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/39 "2017-03-29T21:12:35Z")
Yeah, I’m not into shiny stuff. I’d rather spend my time working towards something that actual affects the outcome of the game. I’ve never been into cosmetics. That’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/40 "2017-03-29T21:18:40Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Yeah, I’m not into shiny stuff. I am into shiny pokemons! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-from-mythic-to-celestial/21648/41 "2017-03-29T21:20:06Z")
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