# As Requested by a Dev: A Thread about Devs' Actions/Inactions **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [February 17, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/as-requested-by-a-dev-a-thread-about-devs-actions-inactions/61445 "2020-02-17T07:26:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 35
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/as-requested-by-a-dev-a-thread-about-devs-actions-inactions/61445/35 "2020-02-27T07:45:47Z")
**October/November 2019: Portal Drop Rates - the Ignoring, the Deceit, and what it takes for the Playerbase to be Heard.** Back in October 2019, one of the most mathematical minds to grace these forums posted that > [@\[Poll\] How do you feel about the current Treasure drop rate?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-current-treasure-drop-rate/58814/11): > > treasure drop preview rates for portals aren’t even close to what we are getting now (and never were) and > [@\[Poll\] How do you feel about the current Treasure drop rate?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-current-treasure-drop-rate/58814/11): > > **Currently** , we are getting over 50% overall treasures rate (current state stated 30%), and the rate of the total drop pool of each treasure is dropping higher than the stated rate in nearly all cases He proceeded to create a very comprehensive post demonstrating beyond reasonable doubt that there was a problem with the drop rates ( [Chaos Portal drop rate displays are incorrect (and the math that shows why, and what to do about it)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-portal-drop-rate-displays-are-incorrect-and-the-math-that-shows-why-and-what-to-do-about-it/58853) ): given the Devs’ history of dismissing player feedback, particularly when it relates to drop rates’ programming shortcomings, he started his post with “Before you change this to [Not a Bug] without reading because it is about drop rates, this is math backed and the rates displayed aren’t even close to what is being sampled.” In a second thread by Mithran aimed at Data Gathering ( [Data Gathering - Portal Drop Rates](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/data-gathering-portal-drop-rates/59049) ), a Dev posted that > [@Data Gathering - Portal Drop Rates](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/data-gathering-portal-drop-rates/59049/2): > > There was a small bug server side, and in the next update we will be changing the numbers to more accurately reflect the _current_ drop rates followed by > [@Portal Drop Rates - the Why, the How, and the Solution](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/portal-drop-rates-the-why-the-how-and-the-solution/59125/25): > > I have said several times that our drop rates are staying the same, and we are changing the in game displayed drop rates to reflect that. in a post of her own where she’s trying to navigate the situation now that they could no longer ignore it ( [Portal Drop Rates - the Why, the How, and the Solution](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/portal-drop-rates-the-why-the-how-and-the-solution/59125) ). Said _current_ drop rates would be closer to a 45-55, instead of the currently displayed 70-30. Shortly afterward, mortr spotted that the displayed drop tables had been marginally changed while retaining the 70-30 ratio, thus contradicting the Dev’s claim that things would be adjusted to the expected 45-55 ( [Portal Drop Rates - the Why, the How, and the Solution - #41 by mortr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/portal-drop-rates-the-why-the-how-and-the-solution/59125/41)). Despite the Dev’s earlier assertion and reiteration ‘several times’, they had decided to do something else and effect the Ninja Nerf to the detriment of the Playerbase. It would seem that such deceit and blatantly going back on their word is not considered ‘morally wrong’ enough for the Devs to not engage in such practices ( [[Not a bug] Repeat Legendary Tasks - #28 by Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-repeat-legendary-tasks/61587/28) ). Fortunately in this case the backlash from the Playerbase was strong enough to nudge the devs’ morality gauge back to implement their previous promises. As it stands, the Devs will listen to the Playerbase when cornered either by facts/data and/or the sound of wallets closing up on them. 🖖 **Sources:** > [@\[Poll\] How do you feel about the current Treasure drop rate?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-current-treasure-drop-rate/58814): > > Wanted to gauge the general climate on the forums about how everyone feels about treasure drops from portals based on their own personal experience. Discounting rarity distribution within each set, how do you feel about how many treasures are dropping versus troops from portals? [poll](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-current-treasure-drop-rate/58814/1) (Before it gets brought up, lets also assume for now there will never be a guild-guardian style system where troops get removed from the drop pool after you have mythic +4 on all of them in a given drop pool. “Mo… > [@Chaos Portal drop rate displays are incorrect (and the math that shows why, and what to do about it)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/chaos-portal-drop-rate-displays-are-incorrect-and-the-math-that-shows-why-and-what-to-do-about-it/58853): > > The Bug Before you change this to [Not a Bug] without reading because it is about drop rates, this is math backed and the rates displayed aren’t even close to what is being sampled. So bear with me. And please actually read some of it. At the very least, if you are going to skim the math, read the proposal at the end/in the linked thread: [[Poll] How do you feel about the current Treasure drop rate? - #11 by Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-current-treasure-drop-rate/58814/11). Platform, device version and operating system: All of them. Screenshot or… > [@Data Gathering - Portal Drop Rates](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/data-gathering-portal-drop-rates/59049): > > Hello, Since we haven’t been told anything whether or not portal drop rates would be changing, and a new faction is here very soon, I figured it would be prudent to document what we are getting. Before it goes up, I am humbly asking for anybody that is able to simply document their drops. A four screenshot series that shows before/after for troops and treasures along with stating how many chaos shards used (or portals opened) should be sufficient. Compiling it into a table or list by type an… > [@Portal Drop Rates - the Why, the How, and the Solution](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/portal-drop-rates-the-why-the-how-and-the-solution/59125): > > Recently, our community brought to light an issue with the chaos portal drop rates. I’ve done my best to succinctly outline the problem, and why no other chests are affected. There was an optimization added into the code from years ago which would pre-calculate the troops you can get from a chest. Unfortunately, this was not taking into account if a chest had multiple “troop pools” to pick from, such as the case of the Chaos Portals. This means that when the game rolls for a troop of a specifi… --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/as-requested-by-a-dev-a-thread-about-devs-actions-inactions/61445)._