# Are we 100% sure that pvp trait drops are random?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation/Xbox)\
**Created:** [April 30, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143 "2016-04-30T04:42:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/21 "2016-05-02T21:32:06Z")

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it still seems super weird how many green/purple people seem to be pullin… are defend drops as random as invades?

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**Author:** ![PowerPlay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/powerplay/32/3886_2.png) [@PowerPlay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PowerPlay)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/22 "2016-05-02T21:54:41Z")

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Wait, console stones are random? That explains the celestial I got from an arena battle.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Strange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mr.strange/32/2762_2.png) [@Mr.Strange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mr.Strange)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/23 "2016-05-02T22:41:33Z")

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> [@PowerPlay](#):
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> Wait, console stones are random? That explains the celestial I got from an arena battle.

On PC/mobile, colors are locked to the kingdom of the defender. On console, colors are random.

You can get celestial in either case. (Though very infrequently - less than 1% of the time)

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/24 "2016-05-02T23:31:06Z")

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Off topic - Mr. strange i thought your pic was Hank hill in in real life form.

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**Author:** ![ibohr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ibohr/32/4367_2.png) [@ibohr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ibohr)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/25 "2016-05-03T00:07:13Z")

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There has to be a bug with the arcane drop rates. I already got enough green\purple arcane stones from pvp matches to unlock all traits from venoxia and boar rider, and I only got 0-4 from all other arcanes…

Could you please check the drop rates from pvp battles? I’m not the only one with that many green\purple stones…

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-we-100-sure-that-pvp-trait-drops-are-random/6143/26 "2016-05-03T01:14:44Z")

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i know right if it was just me id think rng hates me but this is weird

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