# Are those doomskulls really necessary?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [May 8, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322 "2018-05-08T22:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/1 "2018-05-08T22:27:10Z")

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Are those doomskulls really necessary? Since they came in the game it’s more of a lottery to win a game.  
Were is the fun in that? Throw them back out, it will make the game more fun again and less of a lottery. That way there will be once more be a bit more strategy needed to win a game than dumb luck…

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/2 "2018-05-08T22:29:07Z")

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There coming a whole new kingdom about doomskulls. This Friday.

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/3 "2018-05-08T22:50:54Z")

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I recategorized this to gameplay chat, as you’re…well…chatting about gameplay, not reporting a bug.

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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/4 "2018-05-09T09:53:23Z")

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Sorry my mistake.

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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/5 "2018-05-09T09:56:07Z")

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Really??? Is that really necessary?  
I’m still wondering who came up with the stupid idea of doomskulls… and now there gonna dedicate a whole kingdom to it?  
Why, why, why???

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/6 "2018-05-09T10:09:38Z")

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“Gems of War” is a successor of “Puzzle Quest” series in a way. And there are doomskulls in this series from the beginning. So doomskulls were planned to be here as well.

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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/7 "2018-05-09T17:33:01Z")

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It’s not because those things are or were in an other game they “must” be in this.

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/8 "2018-05-09T20:37:22Z")

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theoretically no, but they were being prepared too long.

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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/9 "2018-05-10T18:12:16Z")

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Aha, so even if it’s a bad idea it must go on because it has been prepared?  
Sorry but I don’t see the logic in that. If, in my profession, I have prepared something and it looks like it is a bad idea I simply throw it out and try to make something better.

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**Author:** ![polyester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/polyester/32/59766_2.png) [@polyester](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/polyester)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/10 "2018-05-10T19:37:42Z")

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They don’t bother me, especially because the AI doesn’t seem to know they exist. It’ll frequently ignore the Doomskulls to make a regular skull match.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/11 "2018-05-10T19:40:04Z")

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Just wait tomorow when only doomskulls on the board, they probably won’t ignore them 🙂

If you didin’t see salty stream yet, take a look and tell me you not worried

https://player.twitch.tv/?video=v258931982&parent=multisite-business5.discourse.org&autoplay=false

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/12 "2018-05-10T19:52:00Z")

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We will probably not see too much of it tomorrow, rather next week with the new kingdoms event week, when more of the Doomskull hardhitters get into circulation.

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/13 "2018-05-11T11:35:06Z")

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Developers don’t think it was a bad idea, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/14 "2018-05-11T14:50:45Z")

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Replace Sheggra in the Maw team with Bloodhammer. 😬

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/15 "2018-05-11T15:31:03Z")

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…monday

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**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/16 "2018-05-11T15:32:05Z")

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Salty’s stream was kind of gross. I think part of the problem is the devs aren’t really “players” in the same sense as a lot of us. What do I mean?

Salty was laughing at how nuts Doomskulls were the entire time. She seemed to have a lot of fun. Since she was doing PvP and some of the questline, it was all low-stakes. In that context, it _is_ really fun (to some people) to have weird, explody matches where the world changes in an instant. This is how devs test the game: low-stakes matches where a loss only results in a tiny fraction of lost time.

She didn’t try to help her guild meet a Raid Boss or Invasion score. She didn’t try to get a winning score in Guild Wars. She didn’t try for the PvP leaderboard. She didn’t try for the Raid/Invasion/Bounty leaderboards. She didn’t try to beat a pet rescue in 10 minutes because she’s at work and had to wait for a break. She didn’t play in a situation where she only has 30 minutes per day and has to figure out how to meet trophy requirements for a guild. These are all scenarios that players face where “explody, swingy matches” are very frustrating, because even having a well-prepared team is not enough to make sure your very limited time/sigils are spent well.

If Gems of War was _just_ PvP and _just_ Explore, Doomskulls would be really fun and probably more well-received. But an increasing amount of GoW is competitive, and requires reliable _wins_ to stay afloat. That’s the part of GoW the devs don’t experience and I think the increasing frustration in the playerbase is a side effect.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/17 "2018-05-11T15:33:26Z")

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but…but…splosions!

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/18 "2018-05-11T15:55:33Z")

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Well after trying king and glaycion i wonder why bone dragon been nerfed

Clearly the game is broken lol

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/19 "2018-05-11T15:58:44Z")

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At one point they cared about balance lol.

They should bring back the old Bone Dragon as a Mythic or something.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-those-doomskulls-really-necessary/39322/20 "2018-05-11T16:01:30Z")

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But instead of normal skulls he should create Michael Bay skulls now!

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