# Are there any other base Legenaries as worthless as **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399 "2017-10-10T04:04:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/21 "2017-10-11T12:23:32Z")
Don’t give the plebeians ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/22 "2017-10-11T19:31:43Z")
For what it’s worth, I really liked that concept (drop bear). We don’t have enough of the “player-weighted RNG” that I think strikes a good balance between a sure thing and a braindead coin toss. Another take on that spell: Plummet 9 mana Destroy a random column. Deal [Magic + X] damage to the target enemy, boosted by Green gems destroyed. If no Skulls were destroyed, instead take 10 damage. [5x] Effective use of the spell would require you to wait for a greenish board with a relatively even spread of Skulls. Would potentially go nicely with Forest Guardian. ---
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/23 "2017-10-11T19:37:01Z")
There is. Hydra. ---
**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/24 "2017-10-11T19:41:44Z")
I’m a big fan of the “smart, situationally OP as hell” approach to design. I’d love to see more of that. It’s really rewarding to take a few turns to set things up then demolish. Way better than RNG, and I also prefer that to the traditional control/loop teams that whittle down. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/25 "2017-10-11T19:46:27Z")
Yup! Could even give the bear no backfire chance and say instead, “If a Skull was destroyed, gain an Extra Turn.” That would give it a form of Fast that is reminiscent of Aziris and Raven, as it would also partly refill from the destroyed gems. Essentially it’d be a Boar Rider that encouraged weighted gambling for more damage per hit and resource gain. Though the thought of a bear falling out of a tree and landing on its face makes me giggle. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/26 "2017-10-11T20:05:02Z")
Useless legendaries: Abhorath Bone Dragon Dark Monolith Garuda Gog and Gud Hydra King mikhail Kuarg the dread Queen Grapplepot ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/27 "2017-10-11T22:03:55Z")
@Vangor Some of those legendary troops on your list never got to bask in the sun, another got so sunburnt it had to be permanently exiled to the basement (BD) 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/28 "2017-10-12T12:18:37Z")
where did the garnok go ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/29 "2017-10-12T12:39:25Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Abhorath > > ~~Bone Dragon~~ > > Dark Monolith > > ~~Garuda~~ > > Gog and Gud > > Hydra > > ~~King mikhail~~ > > Kuarg the dread > > ~~Queen Grapplepot~~ Fixed it for you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/30 "2017-10-12T13:30:53Z")
im actually using garuda 5 times per week, every week so yeah not useless to me 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/31 "2017-10-12T13:44:04Z")
my top useless legendary list is: . **5**. **Dark Monolith**. I keep telling myself next time ill put him on defense so he would fish out the weak targets. Next time… why is it not working? . **4**. **Bunni’Nog**. Oh is that a legendary? i forgot. . **3**. **Abhorath**. He is so useless i dont even remmember about him. there is nothing about him id even wish to keep? . **2**. **Kruarg the Dread** - cause i wish he was playable, so badly, devour is my favorite mechanic to play with but him? ruined it! no matter how hard you try it wouldnt work . **1**. absolute king of uselessness **Gar’nok** because he has this special place for me since it was my first legendary. with ork remake it didnt change a thing. why oh why? xD ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/32 "2017-10-12T13:54:49Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > im actually using garuda 5 times per week, every week so yeah not useless to me I must revisit garuda and see if i can use it😎 ---
**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/33 "2017-10-12T14:02:45Z")
Gar’nok is very good now. The orc teams are really fun and he’s a lynchpin. Have you not tried them since the rework? ---
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/34 "2017-10-12T14:09:39Z")
Gorgotha, hc, garuda, Abby. Its been yellow days standard for awhile between lack of time and empathy for the event. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/35 "2017-10-12T14:14:43Z")
Hrmmm… I domt have aby😪 And i feel like a n00b but what is hc? ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/36 "2017-10-12T14:24:33Z")
Hellcat, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/37 "2017-10-12T14:29:03Z")
Orion used to work great with courage and BD. Still a semi decent team ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/38 "2017-10-13T06:26:04Z")
nope i didnt xP maybe his first impression was just too strong for me 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/39 "2017-10-13T06:27:06Z")
i use famine and herdmaster instead of aby/hc and i admit the team isnt perfect, but i do have fun with ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399/40 "2017-10-13T06:43:10Z")
To clarify on Orion and « bypass armor » The problem now, as with all « % to bypass armor « troops, is that yes, the damage is apply as true damage, BUT, the damage reduction of armor traits still apply (so 75% for Gorgotha). Still, I like him. My team is Orion Aziris Courage Sylvanimora [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-there-any-other-base-legenaries-as-worthless-as/31399.md?page=3)