# Are the Devs taking things too far? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [August 29, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900 "2018-08-29T10:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Davetheoutlander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@Davetheoutlander](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Davetheoutlander)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/42 "2018-08-29T15:50:40Z")
Good to see you too @Whiskeyjack - even if the gif is a little creepy… 😉 You make some very good points there. I remember when I started playing, coming up two years ago. I look back and remember totally avoiding PvP for a long time, until I just bit the bullet and gave it a try. Surprisingly, I did pretty well but still obviously come unstuck against some of the tougher teams, but that’ll almost always happen, regardless of your level. I think the devs have done a pretty good job of giving end game players more content, even if a little repetitive, as well as making the game accessible for new players. ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/43 "2018-08-29T15:58:31Z")
Don’t forget that lower level players end up getting more gold per PvP battle also ---
**Author:** ![JayJay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jayjay/32/45436_2.png) [@JayJay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JayJay)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/44 "2018-08-29T16:35:15Z")
@Angie As the Level 1000+ player, you should know the game curve already. The new players could do tons of things before they went to higher competitive PVP, or guild war. Guide your family members, if they are low level player, to fit the curve, do something comfortable with their current level. If they challenge something not supposed done by their level, don’t blame the game hard. And you sir are the only one says every mythic is useful in someway. Interesting. Of course every troop is usable if fit the team but most mythic are just not as good as some legendaries. There are lots of anti divine team has been discussed in the forum. Some of them are cheap build. No mythic at all. Go and find the search button, tape anti divine, done. Better than crying ubastat not beatable. ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/45 "2018-08-29T16:45:10Z")
You’re a level what now and can’t beat a what now? ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/46 "2018-08-29T17:44:29Z")
im a level 25 have probs beating teams with rhynax on them…but im not for nerfing so i think rhynax should be buffed! 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/47 "2018-08-29T17:49:55Z")
Rhynax traited or naked? ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/48 "2018-08-29T17:57:25Z")
I must admit, it wouldn’t be great to be a new player starting out now. Not impossible but not great. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/49 "2018-08-29T18:07:15Z")
No it’s not, you get stomped in the pets rescue, dungeons, invasions 1 billion stones to farm and no way to get resources for the forge because of course bosses there are ridiculous so you can’t actually escape the trash train cards by crafting decent ones, you gotta hope for the rng gods, or have money to throw at the game. New player life is rough. ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/50 "2018-08-29T18:09:39Z")
Who’s Rynax? Is he a divine? If he’s a divine I suggest using NOTHING with mana drain or barrier. Similarly, use ONLY fully traited Firebombs and cast AS SOON as the match starts. If Firebomb is not traited, use Elspeth. If none of the above are traited, I suggest playing pet rescue, preferably one where the opponents are goblins, with Firebomb and Elspeth on your team. It’ll give you traitstones. 😉 If you lose, come to the forums and talk about how Rynax needs a nerf. Ignore the people telling you to build a proper team against him, just scream nerf. As for goblins, they are fine, perfect in fact. Except that one Fizz thing, that one need a buff, I mean nerf… again. ---
**Author:** ![Zepp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zepp/32/42136_2.png) [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/51 "2018-08-29T18:22:55Z")
Although I always think there is room for PvP improvement, your thread is very ‘the sky is falling’ in a ‘do I need a jacket today’ world. PvP is currently boring, but not overly difficult. New players should in NO WAY be competitive with established players. You have to start small to see the difference as you improve. New players should be focusing on improving their collection and choosing their battles. A new player should not be able to steamroll 3-trophy PvP. At your level if you are not competitive, that is completely on you. I am a lower level than you and I have at least 8 teams that can 3-trophy PvP. Mythics are not game-breaking. You cannot portray them all as nuclear weapons and be taken seriously. They are not even necessary to win. They are fun extra troops that are rarely gotten, and as such more appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/52 "2018-08-29T18:27:14Z")
To be honest I fear more yu guai or whatever the hell it’s name is than any mythic in the game. That card is absurd ---
**Author:** ![JayJay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jayjay/32/45436_2.png) [@JayJay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JayJay)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/53 "2018-08-29T18:43:38Z")
Becareful Poor Yao Guai going to be nerfed. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/54 "2018-08-29T18:46:15Z")
Good to hear! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![JayJay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jayjay/32/45436_2.png) [@JayJay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JayJay)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/55 "2018-08-29T18:47:48Z")
No, I’m just joking… Hopefully. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Shadow1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadow1/32/45170_2.png) [@Shadow1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadow1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/56 "2018-08-29T19:00:17Z")
I already avoid any battle where I see his name anyway, but a nerf would be indeed awesome. I hate that card ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/57 "2018-08-29T19:06:21Z")
> [@Hound of Doom](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/219): > > With all due respect. I feel these changes were actually aimed to nerf the troops offensively. You could raise Infernus to 36 Mana. Still won’t stop the AI from casting and getting instantly full again with an extra turn thanks to favorable RNG depending on the “scale of difficulty”. > If you were concerned about the Defense aspect. You’d focus more on the blobs of 15 gem matches attained when a board is exploded. The real issue has nothing to do with the troops you’re facing. But the way they scale the AI difficulty. They say they never mess with it. But it seems to change daily. So…🤷 ---
**Author:** ![asiral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@asiral](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/asiral)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/58 "2018-08-29T21:09:37Z")
Angie. You could try an dragon team. For me most of the times 80% i beat that dvine team. Banner abysmal banner Mountain cruser(hero) Dragon soul Worldbreaker Glitterclaw. For me worked. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/59 "2018-08-29T21:15:41Z")
If those are the troops on hand, you have no business in pvp in the first place. Arena is where you should be, trying new troops and leveling up until you _can_ compete in pvp. Btw, the instamythic thing is never gonna happen. You have to wait for them, just like we did. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/60 "2018-08-30T05:03:04Z")
Mythic troop PvP usage stats: ![mime-attachment](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/a/ea0b6340ced59d28bff5e320e39a1a60909c9092.gif) Yeah most of them, but I don’t have Suna or Weaver. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900/61 "2018-08-30T05:07:06Z")
> [@Lafella](#): > > Weaver? That’s the only mythic I have used since it came out. This has been my main PvP team for a while. Thanks again @Griever666 > [@A New Mythic Approaches - Arachnaean Weaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-arachnaean-weaver/43506/99): > > I use > > Mountain crusher > Divinia > Crimson bat > Arachnaean Weaver > Bear banner [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-the-devs-taking-things-too-far/44900.md?page=4)