# Are skull creators useless now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [October 18, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733 "2017-10-18T04:10:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![daveis23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@daveis23](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/daveis23)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/1 "2017-10-18T04:10:53Z")
Anything that makes skulls in the game just got destroyed. Sheggra/keeper of souls/ bone dragon/sekhma… only one skull match counts now… I thought the update was addressing triggering traits, not major spells. This nerf is MASSIVE. ---
**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/2 "2017-10-18T04:30:51Z")
Yeah, it was really short-sighted. Kraken was the main problem and in the process of trying to fix one troop they wrecked a bunch. I just don’t get what they’re doing with troop design any more. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/3 "2017-10-18T04:34:20Z")
Wait, really? So skull spam is completely off the table now too? I really want confirmation if that was even intended or not. ---
**Author:** ![daveis23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@daveis23](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/daveis23)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/4 "2017-10-18T04:37:35Z")
I tested it with keeper of souls. Three skull matches equaled one hit. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/5 "2017-10-18T04:44:13Z")
We’re looking into this. When you say three matches equaled one hit, are you referring to the animation? or the amount of damage dealt? ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 6:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/6 "2017-10-18T06:02:32Z")
A guildmate of mine just shared this video: [https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNfsaBEfzIg0gFIJkFtKeo3G9FLnR\_qqa23gvJYGQV9aQbJsfC7hR7eHtjF15c0\_Q/photo/AF1QipPbc41o3ymTF78UPPufDZp\_FrjONRl5b\_A3XgnZ?key=b0l4MDdUdzRxajRNYU9ibVJsZkpjczRES1BGTTNn](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNfsaBEfzIg0gFIJkFtKeo3G9FLnR_qqa23gvJYGQV9aQbJsfC7hR7eHtjF15c0_Q/photo/AF1QipPbc41o3ymTF78UPPufDZp_FrjONRl5b_A3XgnZ?key=b0l4MDdUdzRxajRNYU9ibVJsZkpjczRES1BGTTNn) As you can see here, multiple skull matches on the same board only showed one hit, and only for the attack amount of damage. However, damage **dealt** to the enemy troop appears to be correct for the amount of skulls matched. What I find more amusing is they were able to cast Bone Dragon’s strip flesh on themselves to trigger this. It would be cool if this were actually intended, as it gives a lot more depth to the troop. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/7 "2017-10-18T07:15:50Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > What I find more amusing is they were able to cast Bone Dragon’s strip flesh on themselves to trigger this. Why would someone try this 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-skull-creators-useless-now/31733/8 "2017-10-18T08:28:01Z")
I’m assuming this is a bug introduced with the “traits only triggering once per move” “fix”.