# Anybody else using Gard's Avatar and enjoying it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [November 14, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318 "2016-11-14T17:58:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/22 "2016-11-15T02:04:29Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > it’s just so slow. Loop, loop, loop, loop - it takes forever. Why all those loops? It shouldn’t take that long. Many of my matches look like this: Mercy-\>Hellcat-\>Gard-\>Alchemist-\>Gard. That’s casting each once, sometimes twice, and very rarely more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/23 "2016-11-15T02:07:49Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > I’ve tried Mercy and Loyalty Something else I’ve just noted is that Mercy is going to be significantly larger than Loyalty since we can have that at Mythic level. Meaning it can hit a bit harder and not die so easily. ---
**Author:** ![Freakynation76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/freakynation76/32/2936_2.png) [@Freakynation76](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Freakynation76)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/24 "2016-11-15T02:14:33Z")
I’ve been using Hellcat-Alchemist-Gard-Gard ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/25 "2016-11-15T02:24:21Z")
Double Gard would be nice to have. Loop Hellcat/Alchemist until both are charged then just cast them both… Who needs Green and Blue anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/26 "2016-11-15T03:01:45Z")
I don’t think that saves much, actually. You still have to loop just as much to fill two once instead of one twice (aside from a marginal spillover after the first fills), and either way you give up one turn after the first Gard casts. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/27 "2016-11-15T03:20:07Z")
Spillover is pretty big though, depending on the board state. Furthermore you can transform away Red or Yellow into the other without worrying as much, since you’ll have your two casts ready. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/28 "2016-11-15T04:25:09Z")
I get a string like that maybe once in every 10 matches. Normally it takes casting both Hellcat and Alch to fill Gard and then you still have to cast at least once more, maybe twice. I just haven’t found any team to be reliable without an armor buffer. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/29 "2016-11-15T04:56:11Z")
if i play gard i use: **humility** (traited) **ysabelle** (not traited) **dragon soul** (not traited) **gard** (not traited) +dragon banner works nice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/30 "2016-11-15T05:10:19Z")
Yes, I like this one a lot. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/31 "2016-11-15T06:01:43Z")
That’s a fun team, @Annaerith! ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/32 "2016-11-15T06:43:35Z")
Simple answer to the topic title is yes. It’s a bit too easy and too strong though. Gard if deployed with even the tiniest skill can two cast wipe the enemy team. I suppose we’re all happy we got easy mode back again for fast farming. It’s like running double Mab again before there were counter traits. Gard is likely to get nerfed a little at some point. Probably the boost ratio. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/33 "2016-11-15T07:50:19Z")
Still very vulnerable to being stunned or frozen. Not to mention Mab and Bone Dragon annihilate him. But in general, yeah, kind of silly. Plus we’ve still got the burn and silence… ---
**Author:** ![alebenja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@alebenja](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alebenja)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/34 "2016-11-15T08:15:21Z")
ehm…who? ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 9:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/35 "2016-11-15T09:09:57Z")
I use Gorgotha\*\*\*, Ysabelle\*\*\*, Mercy\*\*\*, Gard\* I know it looks stupid because gorgotha blocks Gard but it’s pretty resilient ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/36 "2016-11-15T09:45:15Z")
Its not stupid, I was using that for a while before the looping team we’ve been discussing. And so were a bunch of others. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/37 "2016-11-15T14:32:49Z")
I’m using him specifically to counter 2xManticore/DB/BD. That’s why I’m focused on speed and armor buffs. He can take being drained by Manticore but if BD uses him for his spell, it’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/38 "2016-11-17T09:55:34Z")
I use: Dragon Banner: Loyalty (3) Alchemist (3) Hellcat (0) Gard’s Avatar (2) Loyalty had done well in building up Gard’s armor in the absence of his 3rd trait (the reason I was using her) so well in fact that after I finish traiting Gard I will keep the team “as is” and it will run that much faster ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318/39 "2016-11-17T15:14:23Z")
The best team I’ve put together so far is Dragon Banner with: Gorgotha / The Dragon Soul / Gard’s Avatar / Priest Class + Prismatic Orb. Thanks goes to @Annaerith for opening my eyes. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/anybody-else-using-gards-avatar-and-enjoying-it/15318.md?page=1)